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	<title>Comments on: Would full-body scanners have stopped the Christmas bomber? Probably not</title>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john,
are you asking &quot;how do you propose to stop the next bomber&quot;?
Ahhh..., how about CIA start listenning THE FATHER OF THE GUY - HE CALLED SEVERAL TIMES TO WARN THEM THAT HIS SON IS ON SOMETHING??!!! Ahh, john?!
You are a not a human been any more if you agree trade your liberty to this [false] security. You are cattle in  the slaughter house. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john,<br />
are you asking &#8220;how do you propose to stop the next bomber&#8221;?<br />
Ahhh&#8230;, how about CIA start listenning THE FATHER OF THE GUY &#8211; HE CALLED SEVERAL TIMES TO WARN THEM THAT HIS SON IS ON SOMETHING??!!! Ahh, john?!<br />
You are a not a human been any more if you agree trade your liberty to this [false] security. You are cattle in  the slaughter house.</p>
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		<title>By: ertdfg</title>
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		<dc:creator>ertdfg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;john January 5, 2010 at 9:25 am

    So Charlie … Since you don’t want to use the only technology that would have stopped the bombing&quot;

Well John the next one will have explosives in a body cavity.  Are you willing to supbmit yourself and all your relatives (children included) to a full body cavity search every time you fly?

If you have no limits fine; explain that you&#039;d let your 5 year old daughter get a cavity search from a stranger.  If you do have limits, why are you so shocked that someone else&#039;s limits might be a bit different than yours?

Full cavity search is the only way to stop explosives in a body cavity, these scanners don&#039;t see through you; so you&#039;re good with  &quot;the only technology that would have stopped the bombing&quot;?  Or do you now have a problem with security?

Or do you have a detailed alternate plan to know if I&#039;ve got explosives up my butt or if I just ate a burrito earlier?  Without an alternate plan I have to assume you&#039;re good with hiring the unsupervised TSA goons (some of who have already been charged with child molestation off the job) with giving cavity searches to children.

You know, for safety and stuff.  I mean the TSA has done so well we should trust them. Look at all the terrorist they&#039;ve caught before getting on planes... there was... um... shoot... er... NOBODY.

Shoe Bomber, underwear bomber, on the plane... but trust them this time they&#039;ll do better?  Just let them scan you naked and grope you and your kids?  

I&#039;ve got a simple answer to that.  NO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;john January 5, 2010 at 9:25 am</p>
<p>    So Charlie … Since you don’t want to use the only technology that would have stopped the bombing&#8221;</p>
<p>Well John the next one will have explosives in a body cavity.  Are you willing to supbmit yourself and all your relatives (children included) to a full body cavity search every time you fly?</p>
<p>If you have no limits fine; explain that you&#8217;d let your 5 year old daughter get a cavity search from a stranger.  If you do have limits, why are you so shocked that someone else&#8217;s limits might be a bit different than yours?</p>
<p>Full cavity search is the only way to stop explosives in a body cavity, these scanners don&#8217;t see through you; so you&#8217;re good with  &#8220;the only technology that would have stopped the bombing&#8221;?  Or do you now have a problem with security?</p>
<p>Or do you have a detailed alternate plan to know if I&#8217;ve got explosives up my butt or if I just ate a burrito earlier?  Without an alternate plan I have to assume you&#8217;re good with hiring the unsupervised TSA goons (some of who have already been charged with child molestation off the job) with giving cavity searches to children.</p>
<p>You know, for safety and stuff.  I mean the TSA has done so well we should trust them. Look at all the terrorist they&#8217;ve caught before getting on planes&#8230; there was&#8230; um&#8230; shoot&#8230; er&#8230; NOBODY.</p>
<p>Shoe Bomber, underwear bomber, on the plane&#8230; but trust them this time they&#8217;ll do better?  Just let them scan you naked and grope you and your kids?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a simple answer to that.  NO!</p>
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		<title>By: Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#124; Whole Body Imaging Facts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#124; Whole Body Imaging Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 16:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charles Leocha of Consumer Traveler “had an opportunity to step into the small video viewing room manned by a single TSA officer” at Reagan National [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#171; Dark Politricks Retweeted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#171; Dark Politricks Retweeted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charles Leocha of Consumer Traveler “had an opportunity to step into the small video viewing room manned by a single TSA officer” at Reagan National [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We Are Change Colorado Springs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Whole-Body Imaging Won&#8217;t Work</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/would-full-body-scanners-have-stopped-the-christmas-bomber-probably-not/comment-page-1/#comment-18969</link>
		<dc:creator>We Are Change Colorado Springs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Whole-Body Imaging Won&#8217;t Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charles Leocha of Consumer Traveler &#8220;had an opportunity to step into the small video viewing room manned by a single TSA officer&#8221; at Reagan National [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Consumer Travel Alliance &#187; Is travel safer after our Christmas wake-up call? Probably not</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consumer Travel Alliance &#187; Is travel safer after our Christmas wake-up call? Probably not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;detected&#8221; the explosives in a perfect world, chances are the powder spread in panties could have been confused with many other items. If a scanner operator had the time to really analyze the image on their screen, he or she may have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/would-full-body-scanners-have-stopped-the-christmas-bomber-probably-not/comment-page-1/#comment-18904</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Whole-Body Imaging Won’t Work &#124; The Freeman &#124; Ideas On Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Charles Leocha of Consumer Traveler “had an opportunity to step into the small video viewing room manned by a single TSA officer” at Reagan National [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is travel safer after our Christmas wake-up call? Probably not</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is travel safer after our Christmas wake-up call? Probably not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;detected&#8221; the explosives in a perfect world, chances are the powder spread in panties could have been confused with many other items. If a scanner operator had the time to really analyze the image on their screen, he or she may have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie Leocha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Leocha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Security checks at the airport and intelligence work hand in glove. Our current systems make it difficult for anyone to bring explosives onto planes. The job of airport security is to do just that. With 9/11, we learned that the terrorists practiced dozens of times going through airport security to see what was allowed and not allowed. Not one of the terrorists involved brought anything forbidden aboard as far as we know. Our system failed when there was no intelligence to note a heightened alert.

With the Christmas bomber, the security system forced the would-be bomber to bring an explosive device aboard in pieces and attempt to assemble it once aboard the aircraft. Our airport security worked to the extent that he could not bring an assembled bomb aboard.

If intelligence collected had been forwarded to the counterterrorism center and handled properly, this terrorist would have been thwarted. 

The would-be liquid bombers were stopped by proactive intelligence. That&#039;s where we should focus. 

Stripping us naked is not the solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Security checks at the airport and intelligence work hand in glove. Our current systems make it difficult for anyone to bring explosives onto planes. The job of airport security is to do just that. With 9/11, we learned that the terrorists practiced dozens of times going through airport security to see what was allowed and not allowed. Not one of the terrorists involved brought anything forbidden aboard as far as we know. Our system failed when there was no intelligence to note a heightened alert.</p>
<p>With the Christmas bomber, the security system forced the would-be bomber to bring an explosive device aboard in pieces and attempt to assemble it once aboard the aircraft. Our airport security worked to the extent that he could not bring an assembled bomb aboard.</p>
<p>If intelligence collected had been forwarded to the counterterrorism center and handled properly, this terrorist would have been thwarted. </p>
<p>The would-be liquid bombers were stopped by proactive intelligence. That&#8217;s where we should focus. </p>
<p>Stripping us naked is not the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 13:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Charlie upon rereading your note ... It seems that you would support the complete abolishment of any security at the airports and on airplanes. Since we&#039;re going to stop the terrorists before they get there and the current security has holes in it anyway (screeners miss things), there&#039;s no reason to spend the money to keep airports and airplanes secure. 

Am I correct in that is the new position of ConsumerTraveler?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Charlie upon rereading your note &#8230; It seems that you would support the complete abolishment of any security at the airports and on airplanes. Since we&#8217;re going to stop the terrorists before they get there and the current security has holes in it anyway (screeners miss things), there&#8217;s no reason to spend the money to keep airports and airplanes secure. </p>
<p>Am I correct in that is the new position of ConsumerTraveler?</p>
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