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	<title>Comments on: What we&#8217;re reading: New planes to have air bags, 787 delay may be blessing for airlines, standing room only at Spring Air</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On July 1st, 2009 at 10:54 pm Tim said Frank–so the airbags are on the seatbelt?
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Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On July 1st, 2009 at 10:54 pm Tim said Frank–so the airbags are on the seatbelt?<br />
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<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank--so the airbags are on the seatbelt?

Great.  From my experience with a 2000 Mustang, the airbags explode and deflate in a blink of an eye.  And as someone else mentioned, with the speed of the accident and the speed of the airbag, you can get friction burns from them

Just what I want--an exploding bag near my crotch to cause friction burns.  I guess I can join the soprano section of the choir...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank&#8211;so the airbags are on the seatbelt?</p>
<p>Great.  From my experience with a 2000 Mustang, the airbags explode and deflate in a blink of an eye.  And as someone else mentioned, with the speed of the accident and the speed of the airbag, you can get friction burns from them</p>
<p>Just what I want&#8211;an exploding bag near my crotch to cause friction burns.  I guess I can join the soprano section of the choir&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking its cue from automobiles, new airplanes will now be required to have “seats that will stay in place when subjected to stresses up to 16 times the force of gravity.” Additionally, some seats will be equipped with air bags.
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16 times?  Anyone know if your body can handle that force without going unconscious?  Or internal damage?  
Are they going to require that the OVERHEAD COMPARTMENTS handle more impact as well?  16 times the force of gravity would turn a 3 pound bag into a FLYING MISSILE.  How ironic, they would increase the strength of your seat, but, you may be killed by flying luggage from the overheads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking its cue from automobiles, new airplanes will now be required to have “seats that will stay in place when subjected to stresses up to 16 times the force of gravity.” Additionally, some seats will be equipped with air bags.<br />
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<p>16 times?  Anyone know if your body can handle that force without going unconscious?  Or internal damage?<br />
Are they going to require that the OVERHEAD COMPARTMENTS handle more impact as well?  16 times the force of gravity would turn a 3 pound bag into a FLYING MISSILE.  How ironic, they would increase the strength of your seat, but, you may be killed by flying luggage from the overheads.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/what-were-reading-new-planes-to-have-air-bags-787-delay-may-be-blessing-for-airlines-standing-room-only-at-spring-air/comment-page-1/#comment-13456</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, everyone, these AIRBAG seatbelts already exist.  I&#039;ve seen them.  It&#039;s inside the strap on your seatbelt.  Right next to the metal buckle.  Soooo, they would inflate near your waist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, everyone, these AIRBAG seatbelts already exist.  I&#8217;ve seen them.  It&#8217;s inside the strap on your seatbelt.  Right next to the metal buckle.  Soooo, they would inflate near your waist.</p>
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		<title>By: skyguyj</title>
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		<dc:creator>skyguyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First it&#039;s Ryanair In Europe wanting &quot;Pay Toilets&quot;, now Spring Air in Asia wants &quot;Standing room only&quot; seats.......

Here&#039;s a thought........why not install &quot;Vending Machines&quot; in the aft galley and eliminate the need altogether for &quot;Working Flight Attendants&quot; in the back! That&#039;ll surely cut costs for these &quot;VERY&quot; LOW COST CARRIERS!

Then you can call it:  SKYBUS

Oh wait........that&#039;s been tried already..........

These &quot;suits&quot; in the Airline Board Rooms need to get REAL!

Standing Room ONLY???? So much for thier mantra &quot;Safety First&quot; .......

It&#039;s all about the buck (or Yen or Euro) baby.......they don&#039;t give a DAMN about the Customer OR the SERVICE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First it&#8217;s Ryanair In Europe wanting &#8220;Pay Toilets&#8221;, now Spring Air in Asia wants &#8220;Standing room only&#8221; seats&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a thought&#8230;&#8230;..why not install &#8220;Vending Machines&#8221; in the aft galley and eliminate the need altogether for &#8220;Working Flight Attendants&#8221; in the back! That&#8217;ll surely cut costs for these &#8220;VERY&#8221; LOW COST CARRIERS!</p>
<p>Then you can call it:  SKYBUS</p>
<p>Oh wait&#8230;&#8230;..that&#8217;s been tried already&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>These &#8220;suits&#8221; in the Airline Board Rooms need to get REAL!</p>
<p>Standing Room ONLY???? So much for thier mantra &#8220;Safety First&#8221; &#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the buck (or Yen or Euro) baby&#8230;&#8230;.they don&#8217;t give a DAMN about the Customer OR the SERVICE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will it be harder to evacuate an aircraft quickly if there are deployed airbags in the cabin?  They would add to the clutter that would have to be navigated, adding obstacles exactly when the lights may have gone out, the cabin may be filling with smoke, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will it be harder to evacuate an aircraft quickly if there are deployed airbags in the cabin?  They would add to the clutter that would have to be navigated, adding obstacles exactly when the lights may have gone out, the cabin may be filling with smoke, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Hapgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hapgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So does this mean those middle seats will be even smaller, to compensate for the increased size and weight of the new safety equipment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean those middle seats will be even smaller, to compensate for the increased size and weight of the new safety equipment?</p>
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		<title>By: marge</title>
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		<dc:creator>marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The airbags are NOT a good idea.  If you&#039;ve ever been burned by one..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airbags are NOT a good idea.  If you&#8217;ve ever been burned by one&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mencik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mencik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for the first rough turbulence or rough landing that causes an air-bag to go off when it is not supposed to do so. The liability lawsuits should be very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the first rough turbulence or rough landing that causes an air-bag to go off when it is not supposed to do so. The liability lawsuits should be very interesting.</p>
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