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		<title>By: Airlines want you to pay for the privilege of buying tickets (don&#8217;t we do this already?)</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/united-airlines-tries-to-move-credit-card-fees-and-liabilities-to-travel-agents/comment-page-1/#comment-15195</link>
		<dc:creator>Airlines want you to pay for the privilege of buying tickets (don&#8217;t we do this already?)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] airline executive fantasy is the move by United Airlines to force a small group of travel agents to pay all credit card fees when passengers book flights on United. Then the agents are expected to send United cash for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: have you traveled with refrigerated, liquid medications, in a carry-on bag, on a plane, before? - Airline Carry On Rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>have you traveled with refrigerated, liquid medications, in a carry-on bag, on a plane, before? - Airline Carry On Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: What are the current United Airlines baggage restrictions, including medicines and dangerous goods? - Airline Carry On Rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>What are the current United Airlines baggage restrictions, including medicines and dangerous goods? - Airline Carry On Rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: United Airlines might pass credit card fees to travel agents</title>
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		<dc:creator>United Airlines might pass credit card fees to travel agents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Consumer Travel Alliance &#187; United credit card move undermines consumer protections</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/united-airlines-tries-to-move-credit-card-fees-and-liabilities-to-travel-agents/comment-page-1/#comment-13416</link>
		<dc:creator>Consumer Travel Alliance &#187; United credit card move undermines consumer protections</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hough writing late last week in Tripso noted that additional problems will be created by adding a layer between the airline and the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Janice Hough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice Hough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments, if this does happen there seems no way it will benefit consumers or travel agents.  Another issue is what about people who do not use the internet.  Also if it happens, and say, 20 percent more people book on United.com,  that&#039;s a 20 percent extra burden of people at the airport and on the phones dealing with problems...the lines are already long as are the hold times...


Here&#039;s an interesting window into United&#039;s potential motivation,  from a travel agent newsletter.

In a regulatory filing last Friday the airline said it would raise an additional $175 million backed by aircraft parts. The airline has raised more than $1 billion over the past year by mortgaging aircraft, engines, parts and future frequent-flyer miles, but the amount of assets it has left to sell has dropped from about $3 billion to $1.7 billion. United and other airlines have been scrambling in recent months to raise additional cash amid expected losses this year from continued weak travel demand and higher oil prices. This highlights United&#039;s need for cash and could be one of the reasons United is trying to get out of paying some of the credit card fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments, if this does happen there seems no way it will benefit consumers or travel agents.  Another issue is what about people who do not use the internet.  Also if it happens, and say, 20 percent more people book on United.com,  that&#8217;s a 20 percent extra burden of people at the airport and on the phones dealing with problems&#8230;the lines are already long as are the hold times&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting window into United&#8217;s potential motivation,  from a travel agent newsletter.</p>
<p>In a regulatory filing last Friday the airline said it would raise an additional $175 million backed by aircraft parts. The airline has raised more than $1 billion over the past year by mortgaging aircraft, engines, parts and future frequent-flyer miles, but the amount of assets it has left to sell has dropped from about $3 billion to $1.7 billion. United and other airlines have been scrambling in recent months to raise additional cash amid expected losses this year from continued weak travel demand and higher oil prices. This highlights United&#8217;s need for cash and could be one of the reasons United is trying to get out of paying some of the credit card fees.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To follow up on John M.:

Not only are there vary real costs (cc fees) that the agency will have to pay but there&#039;s also a lot of risk associated with this from the agency side. If anything goes wrong and the client protests the charge (Chargeback in credit card lingo), the agency not the airline is on the hook for the money. There is a vary real possiblity that the agency might get stuck for a few tickets. These are costs that the agency will have to build in. 

From the client, there are also a ton of risk involved there. How many stories has Chris Elliot written where a Travel Agency goes out of business between the time they charge a client for the trip and they pay their supplier.? Suddenly, booking your ticket on United means your making a bet on your travel agency&#039;s fiscal health and paying more for the honor of flying United. No thank you.

@Sir Wired: If your agency is working for you, why would they ever book you with a supplier that puts you at a higher risk and higher costs. Just doesn&#039;t make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To follow up on John M.:</p>
<p>Not only are there vary real costs (cc fees) that the agency will have to pay but there&#8217;s also a lot of risk associated with this from the agency side. If anything goes wrong and the client protests the charge (Chargeback in credit card lingo), the agency not the airline is on the hook for the money. There is a vary real possiblity that the agency might get stuck for a few tickets. These are costs that the agency will have to build in. </p>
<p>From the client, there are also a ton of risk involved there. How many stories has Chris Elliot written where a Travel Agency goes out of business between the time they charge a client for the trip and they pay their supplier.? Suddenly, booking your ticket on United means your making a bet on your travel agency&#8217;s fiscal health and paying more for the honor of flying United. No thank you.</p>
<p>@Sir Wired: If your agency is working for you, why would they ever book you with a supplier that puts you at a higher risk and higher costs. Just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: John.M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John.M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SirWired said &quot;The travel agent is supposed to work for the customer. Just because an agent is pissed off (rightfully so) with United, does not give them permission to book the customer on another airline that would impose greater total cost. Certainly, if the additional cost would put a United ticket over one on another airline, fine, but otherwise, the agent should book the customer on United, with an explanation for the additional fees that are involved.&quot;

As I understand it, United&#039;s move will result in a significantly higher cost, assuming that the travel agency doesn&#039;t absorb this cost.  The agency that I deal with has a range of fees that start at $29.00 for a domestic ticket and go up.  If I buy a complex domestic ticket and the price is $1000.00, the merchant fee of 3% to 5% will add on another $30.00 to $50.00 to the cost, so my cost will now be somewhere around $1059.00 to $1079.00 just to buy the ticket.  And on international tickets where one can easily be spending $5000.00, that merchant fee suddenly balloons to $150.00 to $250.00.  

I completely undestand why travel agencies would want to stop selling United, this is nothing more than an attempt to drive a wedge between travel agencies and their customers.  United thinks that the customer is more loyal to the airline than their agency and that in order to save paying the merchant fee, the customers will buy online, directly from United, thereby eliminating travel agencies that give options and offer multiple choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SirWired said &#8220;The travel agent is supposed to work for the customer. Just because an agent is pissed off (rightfully so) with United, does not give them permission to book the customer on another airline that would impose greater total cost. Certainly, if the additional cost would put a United ticket over one on another airline, fine, but otherwise, the agent should book the customer on United, with an explanation for the additional fees that are involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I understand it, United&#8217;s move will result in a significantly higher cost, assuming that the travel agency doesn&#8217;t absorb this cost.  The agency that I deal with has a range of fees that start at $29.00 for a domestic ticket and go up.  If I buy a complex domestic ticket and the price is $1000.00, the merchant fee of 3% to 5% will add on another $30.00 to $50.00 to the cost, so my cost will now be somewhere around $1059.00 to $1079.00 just to buy the ticket.  And on international tickets where one can easily be spending $5000.00, that merchant fee suddenly balloons to $150.00 to $250.00.  </p>
<p>I completely undestand why travel agencies would want to stop selling United, this is nothing more than an attempt to drive a wedge between travel agencies and their customers.  United thinks that the customer is more loyal to the airline than their agency and that in order to save paying the merchant fee, the customers will buy online, directly from United, thereby eliminating travel agencies that give options and offer multiple choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another mess.

I wonder how screwed up travel will be in five years!</description>
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<p>I wonder how screwed up travel will be in five years!</p>
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		<title>By: Paying On Time - Credit Cards &#187; tripso.com &#124; United Airlines tries to move credit card fees and &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paying On Time - Credit Cards &#187; tripso.com &#124; United Airlines tries to move credit card fees and &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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