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		<title>By: Dolores M, Westminster, MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolores M, Westminster, MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you record this a  song on put it up on youtube? :)</description>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent all the documentation and gave Delta 10 days, promising to go to small-claims court not only for the $800 but for an additional $1,700 in costs. (My assistant and I had fully documented our time pursuing the claim; it was far more than $1,700 worth.)
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Wow, $1,700 for what costs?  Explain please.  emails, certified letters, phone calls, small claims court paperwork...........Wouldnt the $100 voucher cover those expenses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent all the documentation and gave Delta 10 days, promising to go to small-claims court not only for the $800 but for an additional $1,700 in costs. (My assistant and I had fully documented our time pursuing the claim; it was far more than $1,700 worth.)<br />
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<p>Wow, $1,700 for what costs?  Explain please.  emails, certified letters, phone calls, small claims court paperwork&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Wouldnt the $100 voucher cover those expenses?</p>
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		<title>By: David Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What should you learn from reading this? Use a local travel agency. The cost of their fee to issue a ticket would have been of great value to you instead of wasting your assistants time. What did you save doing it yourself?????&lt;/blockquote&gt;

YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary.

Some people like me prefer to do things ourselves despite the possible hardships. Others prefer to pay others to do stuff for them, but risk those others falling short of their expectations depending on the situation.

Sorry to read what happened to you, Peter. And you did the right thing documenting all you could to make your case easier to demonstrate, helped all the more by AA&#039;s sending you the needed details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What should you learn from reading this? Use a local travel agency. The cost of their fee to issue a ticket would have been of great value to you instead of wasting your assistants time. What did you save doing it yourself?????</p></blockquote>
<p>YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary.</p>
<p>Some people like me prefer to do things ourselves despite the possible hardships. Others prefer to pay others to do stuff for them, but risk those others falling short of their expectations depending on the situation.</p>
<p>Sorry to read what happened to you, Peter. And you did the right thing documenting all you could to make your case easier to demonstrate, helped all the more by AA&#8217;s sending you the needed details.</p>
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		<title>By: nina</title>
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		<dc:creator>nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great example of why you should buy this type of ticket from a local travel agent. The agent would have put thru the refund in their  ARC report and you would have had the refund on your credit card within 2 weeks. The minimal fee an agency charges for issuing a ticket is nothing compared the time and aggrevation you went thru.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great example of why you should buy this type of ticket from a local travel agent. The agent would have put thru the refund in their  ARC report and you would have had the refund on your credit card within 2 weeks. The minimal fee an agency charges for issuing a ticket is nothing compared the time and aggrevation you went thru.</p>
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		<title>By: Arizona Road Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arizona Road Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my guess that the gate agent got busy and forgot to cancel the reservation.   what caused this problem.  Depending upon the airline, the reservation typically needs to be cancelled by a deadline (i.e. midnight of the day of the travel, before the flight departed and etc) to retain value and etc. 

Given the poor customer service from the legacy airlines, the reduction of staff, the additional job stresses on airline employees and etc; 1) I won&#039;t have boarded the plane until I &#039;saw&#039; the gate agent cancelled the reservation and received a verbal or printed confirmation; 2) I would have gotten the name of the gate agent; 3) I would have taken a picture of the gate agent with my cell phone; 4) I would have call them to confirm that the reservation was cancelled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my guess that the gate agent got busy and forgot to cancel the reservation.   what caused this problem.  Depending upon the airline, the reservation typically needs to be cancelled by a deadline (i.e. midnight of the day of the travel, before the flight departed and etc) to retain value and etc. </p>
<p>Given the poor customer service from the legacy airlines, the reduction of staff, the additional job stresses on airline employees and etc; 1) I won&#8217;t have boarded the plane until I &#8216;saw&#8217; the gate agent cancelled the reservation and received a verbal or printed confirmation; 2) I would have gotten the name of the gate agent; 3) I would have taken a picture of the gate agent with my cell phone; 4) I would have call them to confirm that the reservation was cancelled.</p>
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		<title>By: Bodega</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bodega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What should you learn from reading this?  Use a local travel agency.  The cost of their fee to issue a ticket would have been of great value to you instead of wasting your assistants time.  What did you save doing it yourself?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What should you learn from reading this?  Use a local travel agency.  The cost of their fee to issue a ticket would have been of great value to you instead of wasting your assistants time.  What did you save doing it yourself?????</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I used the airline to go between BWI and MSP (he was in cancer treatment in MN, we lived in MD). On a flight from MSP to BWI (despite NW&#039;s assurances), we were seated in different areas of the plane after a full day of grueling chemo.  He needed me beside him for many reasons, one of which so he wouldn&#039;t throw up on some other passenger.  

NW gate agents and flight attendants (whom I nicely asked for help) didn&#039;t do anything to put us together. In fact, they stuck my husband in the last row  in front of the lav where the seat couldn&#039;t recline.  I took that seat and eventually another passenger switched with my husband (who had to decide between sitting near strangers mid-row while ill, or sitting next to me in an upright position for 4 hours, the worst possible with extreme nausea).

Once home I complained via e-mail to customer service and every exec who&#039;s e-mail I could find.  NW blew me off. I sent the CEO a letter informing him he was losing at least $30K in revenue that year - my husband and I needed to fly between the 2 cities 1-2 xs a month for a year, almost always booking last minute (full fare) since flights were dependent on complicated medical scenarios.

Any questions why I switched to US Airways, AirTran and SW for the remainder of our flights?  Any other questions about why airlines that piss off $30K/year passengers are going bankrupt?  Kudos Peter for sticking to your guns despite the time and expense involved.

By the way, Northwest brags about its Northwest Cares program which supposedly flies patients to and fro for treatment - that program NEVER helped us, even after it was made aware of our situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I used the airline to go between BWI and MSP (he was in cancer treatment in MN, we lived in MD). On a flight from MSP to BWI (despite NW&#8217;s assurances), we were seated in different areas of the plane after a full day of grueling chemo.  He needed me beside him for many reasons, one of which so he wouldn&#8217;t throw up on some other passenger.  </p>
<p>NW gate agents and flight attendants (whom I nicely asked for help) didn&#8217;t do anything to put us together. In fact, they stuck my husband in the last row  in front of the lav where the seat couldn&#8217;t recline.  I took that seat and eventually another passenger switched with my husband (who had to decide between sitting near strangers mid-row while ill, or sitting next to me in an upright position for 4 hours, the worst possible with extreme nausea).</p>
<p>Once home I complained via e-mail to customer service and every exec who&#8217;s e-mail I could find.  NW blew me off. I sent the CEO a letter informing him he was losing at least $30K in revenue that year &#8211; my husband and I needed to fly between the 2 cities 1-2 xs a month for a year, almost always booking last minute (full fare) since flights were dependent on complicated medical scenarios.</p>
<p>Any questions why I switched to US Airways, AirTran and SW for the remainder of our flights?  Any other questions about why airlines that piss off $30K/year passengers are going bankrupt?  Kudos Peter for sticking to your guns despite the time and expense involved.</p>
<p>By the way, Northwest brags about its Northwest Cares program which supposedly flies patients to and fro for treatment &#8211; that program NEVER helped us, even after it was made aware of our situation.</p>
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