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		<title>By: Bob Beilstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Beilstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A response to Jeff:

I&#039;m a &quot;million-miler&quot; and longtime Chairman&#039;s Preferred member with US AIRWAYS, and I fly at least 120 segments a year (sometimes more).  I also pretty regularly fly most of the other majors and Jet Blue.

Perhaps I have a biased point of view, but I still prefer flying with US Air crews over any of the other majors.  I do like Jet Blue as well.

I have no problem with US AIRWAYS customer service either, but I admit that here my status does make a big difference.  It&#039;s always better to talk with someone empowerd to help, and for whom English is a first language.

As far as taking the train goes, I couldn&#039;t agree more.  Between Boston, New York, Philadelphia and the Baltimore/Washington area, The Acela (or even the Metroliner) is less expensive, much more comfortable, and usually faster.  Plus (assuming the outlets are working), I can plug in my notebook and be productive (and connected) pretty much the whole way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A response to Jeff:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a &#8220;million-miler&#8221; and longtime Chairman&#8217;s Preferred member with US AIRWAYS, and I fly at least 120 segments a year (sometimes more).  I also pretty regularly fly most of the other majors and Jet Blue.</p>
<p>Perhaps I have a biased point of view, but I still prefer flying with US Air crews over any of the other majors.  I do like Jet Blue as well.</p>
<p>I have no problem with US AIRWAYS customer service either, but I admit that here my status does make a big difference.  It&#8217;s always better to talk with someone empowerd to help, and for whom English is a first language.</p>
<p>As far as taking the train goes, I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  Between Boston, New York, Philadelphia and the Baltimore/Washington area, The Acela (or even the Metroliner) is less expensive, much more comfortable, and usually faster.  Plus (assuming the outlets are working), I can plug in my notebook and be productive (and connected) pretty much the whole way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 05:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris and others. USAirways traffic flys in the most congested airspace in the world (East Coast Corridor). Try driving to work in your car everyday and try to not take a delay every once in a while, and without forgetting something you were supposed to take with you. I really don&#039;t think the average person has a clue as too how many things  have to be in sync to be ontime everytime. Maintenance, Parts, Crews, Baggage, Ground Equipment, Ticketing, Security, Weather and I have probably left out several other things all the while traveling at 500+ miles per hour. In my opinion the Airlines do the best they can to accomodate customers while trying to stay in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris and others. USAirways traffic flys in the most congested airspace in the world (East Coast Corridor). Try driving to work in your car everyday and try to not take a delay every once in a while, and without forgetting something you were supposed to take with you. I really don&#8217;t think the average person has a clue as too how many things  have to be in sync to be ontime everytime. Maintenance, Parts, Crews, Baggage, Ground Equipment, Ticketing, Security, Weather and I have probably left out several other things all the while traveling at 500+ miles per hour. In my opinion the Airlines do the best they can to accomodate customers while trying to stay in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Charney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Charney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just wondering why bob young continues to follow Chris&#039;s columns. 

Just my four cents. (Inflation.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering why bob young continues to follow Chris&#8217;s columns. </p>
<p>Just my four cents. (Inflation.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a travel agent, I find it amusing that some people actually defend USAIR.  I&#039;ve always said there motto should be &quot;We&#039;re USAIR and we don&#039;t care&quot;  I have more trouble with USAIRWAYS than any of the other airlines combined.  This after I was able to reduce my USAIR sales from 28% to 14% in the past 7 years, and I work in a hub.  From the top down, they treat their customers as if they are a necessary evil.  I thought the AW takeover would help, and it did for a little while but since the economy went downhill, so has their customer service.  
As for tarmac delays, they happen, I suggest in the crowded Northeast Market that you take the train, from door to door it&#039;s usually faster.  Plus with walk up shuttle fares in the $350 range (and that&#039;s down from $650 a few months ago) who wants to pay more to sit on a runway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a travel agent, I find it amusing that some people actually defend USAIR.  I&#8217;ve always said there motto should be &#8220;We&#8217;re USAIR and we don&#8217;t care&#8221;  I have more trouble with USAIRWAYS than any of the other airlines combined.  This after I was able to reduce my USAIR sales from 28% to 14% in the past 7 years, and I work in a hub.  From the top down, they treat their customers as if they are a necessary evil.  I thought the AW takeover would help, and it did for a little while but since the economy went downhill, so has their customer service.<br />
As for tarmac delays, they happen, I suggest in the crowded Northeast Market that you take the train, from door to door it&#8217;s usually faster.  Plus with walk up shuttle fares in the $350 range (and that&#8217;s down from $650 a few months ago) who wants to pay more to sit on a runway.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,  I hope you checked the specifics with someone at US Airways.  As a frequent shuttle traveler, many times I&#039;ve boarded the &quot;3pm&quot; to LGA at 5pm or later during bad weather days.  I was told it was necessary to keep the 3pm flight number to maintain our takeoff priority.

And I&#039;ll add my plus 1 to Bob&#039;s comment.  This kind of ground delay happens all the time on the shuttle routes, and I&#039;ve never seen passengers get bent out of shape.  It comes with the territory for those of us that do it every week, 30-40 weeks a year.  God forbid the government pass some kind of legislation capping a delay at 3 hours.  What if I am trying to get home and 3 minutes from take off they have to turn around and go back to the gate because &quot;that&#039;s the law&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,  I hope you checked the specifics with someone at US Airways.  As a frequent shuttle traveler, many times I&#8217;ve boarded the &#8220;3pm&#8221; to LGA at 5pm or later during bad weather days.  I was told it was necessary to keep the 3pm flight number to maintain our takeoff priority.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll add my plus 1 to Bob&#8217;s comment.  This kind of ground delay happens all the time on the shuttle routes, and I&#8217;ve never seen passengers get bent out of shape.  It comes with the territory for those of us that do it every week, 30-40 weeks a year.  God forbid the government pass some kind of legislation capping a delay at 3 hours.  What if I am trying to get home and 3 minutes from take off they have to turn around and go back to the gate because &#8220;that&#8217;s the law&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 15:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Elliott October 7, 2009 at 10:14 am 
However, I never said that I hoped the company would go out of business.
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That&#039;s the impression I got when you wrote about Alitalia as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Elliott October 7, 2009 at 10:14 am<br />
However, I never said that I hoped the company would go out of business.<br />
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<p>That&#8217;s the impression I got when you wrote about Alitalia as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bob young, that&#039;s not quite accurate. In 2002, I wrote a story about how US Airways (under a different leadership) refused to compensate a passenger for damaged luggage. I ended the story by saying that stories like this make you wish US Airways would do us all a favor and go out of business.

However, I never said that I hoped the company would go out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bob young, that&#8217;s not quite accurate. In 2002, I wrote a story about how US Airways (under a different leadership) refused to compensate a passenger for damaged luggage. I ended the story by saying that stories like this make you wish US Airways would do us all a favor and go out of business.</p>
<p>However, I never said that I hoped the company would go out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Beilstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Beilstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike &quot;Angry Worker&quot;, I don&#039;t believe that the article was biased (numbers are numbers).  But I do agree that the article is misleading.

I&#039;ve been in line for hours at BOS (and LGA) trying to take off when weather rolls in, or the folks in ATC are tearing their hair out trying to safely fit far too many planes into too little sky over New York.  Sometimes it takes a good long while to get off the ground.

The fact that both of these US Airways flights were on a single day tells me that this was by no means usual circumstances.

Shoud US Airways have cancelled the flights instead of waiting in line?  That sure wouldn&#039;t have been my choice!  Should they have gone back to the gate to give everyone a &quot;potty break&quot;, taken the better part of an hour to get everyone off (assuming there was a gate available at all), give them a few minutes in the terminal, and then back on the plane?  And then end up at the back of an even longer line of aircraft queued up to take off?

No thank you!

Perhaps when aircraft have been waiting for a certain period of time, the FAA can write rules for planes not at the front of the line to just set the parking brakes and give folks a quick chance at the rest rooms, without losing one&#039;s place in line, and without violating regulations regarding having everyone seated and strapped in during taxi.  In fact, it is possible that the Captain allowed this anyway.  We just don&#039;t know.

The Continental Express debacle was inexcusable.  These two, I&#039;m willing to write off as a &quot;bad day in Boston&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike &#8220;Angry Worker&#8221;, I don&#8217;t believe that the article was biased (numbers are numbers).  But I do agree that the article is misleading.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in line for hours at BOS (and LGA) trying to take off when weather rolls in, or the folks in ATC are tearing their hair out trying to safely fit far too many planes into too little sky over New York.  Sometimes it takes a good long while to get off the ground.</p>
<p>The fact that both of these US Airways flights were on a single day tells me that this was by no means usual circumstances.</p>
<p>Shoud US Airways have cancelled the flights instead of waiting in line?  That sure wouldn&#8217;t have been my choice!  Should they have gone back to the gate to give everyone a &#8220;potty break&#8221;, taken the better part of an hour to get everyone off (assuming there was a gate available at all), give them a few minutes in the terminal, and then back on the plane?  And then end up at the back of an even longer line of aircraft queued up to take off?</p>
<p>No thank you!</p>
<p>Perhaps when aircraft have been waiting for a certain period of time, the FAA can write rules for planes not at the front of the line to just set the parking brakes and give folks a quick chance at the rest rooms, without losing one&#8217;s place in line, and without violating regulations regarding having everyone seated and strapped in during taxi.  In fact, it is possible that the Captain allowed this anyway.  We just don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>The Continental Express debacle was inexcusable.  These two, I&#8217;m willing to write off as a &#8220;bad day in Boston&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Leocha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Leocha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen any bias. These stories are based on government statistics reported to them by the airlines. USAirways obviously has some serious customer service problems. Denying them won&#039;t help them solve them.
Don&#039;t blame the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen any bias. These stories are based on government statistics reported to them by the airlines. USAirways obviously has some serious customer service problems. Denying them won&#8217;t help them solve them.<br />
Don&#8217;t blame the messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Wechsler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry worker&#039;s diatribe would be funny if it weren&#039;t so far off base. Regardless of the statistics, the traveling public knows that US Airways is so far behind in cutomer service and satisfaction as to be more of less of a joke, and its merger with America West is still not fully consummated after all these years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry worker&#8217;s diatribe would be funny if it weren&#8217;t so far off base. Regardless of the statistics, the traveling public knows that US Airways is so far behind in cutomer service and satisfaction as to be more of less of a joke, and its merger with America West is still not fully consummated after all these years.</p>
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