Comments on: Secret TSA directive resulted in Delta bathroom fiasco

By: Touching Sensitive Areas | jimcofer.com

Touching Sensitive Areas | jimcofer.com — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:20:59 +0000

[...] to obey or protest against laws we can’t even read? Ask Joao Correa of Concord, Ohio. He spent two nights in jail because of a TSA directive that says that passengers on domestic flights can only use the bathrooms [...]

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:08:37 +0000

Quote of the day from CNN — Frank Lloyd Wright – “There is nothing more uncommon than common sense.”

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:28:24 +0000

http://news.aol.com/article/peeing-passenger/430234?icid=sphere_newsaol_inpage

INFLIGHT BEHAVIOR is returning to pre 9-11 days.

By: The man who notices things

The man who notices things — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:52:40 +0000

You want to see a Security directive and how meaningless the information in it really is? Want to see the type of info TSA wants you to believe is ‘sensitive security information not subject to disclosure?’

Right here:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/US_TSA_Security_Directive_establishing_a_new_aviation_ID_card_scheme%2C_1542-04-08F%2C_10_Dec_2008

Read it – it is non-disclosable super secret TSA information – what a bunch of worthless drivel – how is ANY of it going to compromise airport security?

How can anyone in their right mind conclude half of what TSA says or does will remotely contribute to airliner security?

given this – what do you suppose the rest of what TSA consists of? Pretty much the same worthless information. What contributes to airline security today is passengers not wanting to be vaporized in the next terrorist ‘idea.’ TSA has not caught a single terrorist trying to get on to an airplane so far as we know – what we know is that they stop rednecks from bringing chainsaws and Hollywood ‘stars’ from bringing guns and knives ‘inadvertantly’ left in their bags. Oh, and the occasional granny smuggling a nunchuck in her wheelchair.

If TSA EVER stopped a terror attack they’d be on Fox News and the Today Show in a heartbeat bragging on how they’ve saved America from the evil terrorist empire or whatever Obama wants to call it. . .

By: Bela Fleck

Bela Fleck — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:24:29 +0000

I hardly think the Obama administration can be expected to come in right now and undo everything dumb thing the Bush administration did. It’s like losing 100 pounds. It took time to put them into place and it takes time to get rid of them. Our job is to keep these on someone’s radar until they can be fixed.

Now…as for this weird bathroom rule…I don’t think it’s smart in a bathroom emergency to bar someone from an open bathroom just because it happens to be in the wrong seating class. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with having a line forming. If there is no open restroom, that’s different. But if you had diarrhea, all available restrooms in cattle class (where you’re sitting) are full, but there are several open elsewhere, does it make any kind of sense to keep you from using it? I guess this is where somebody stands up and pees on the woman they’re sitting next to, completely ruining her vacation and causing the FBI to investigate?

By: Jim Walker

Jim Walker — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:11:40 +0000

All of these stories make me glad I moved to Panama. The United States is not the country I grew up in. I am reminded of Lincoln’s comment that a foreign power could not take a drink from the Mississippi nor the Ohio but that internal strife (a house divided) would bring us down. I am also reminded of an old book, “The Crazy Ape,” written by a nobel laureate in his later years where he notes that institutions, whatever their original purpose, mutate to serve the needs of their managers, not those who started them. The military/industrial complex has morphed into the homelandsecurity/political/industrial complex serving the needs of its employees.

Sorry about my grousing. I am going back to sip my Panama coffee amongst my houseplant jungle on the balcony.

By: Inspector Clouseau

Inspector Clouseau — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:45:05 +0000

It is quite troubling to know that if you are faced with a choice of soiling your clothing or going to the nearest toilet of opportunity, if you choose the latter you get two nights in jail and a TSA dossier as a minimum, and perhaps more jail time and/or fines going forward.

What other secret rules are out there? I wonder if there is one where if you question TSA tactics in public you have your own TSA dossier started?

Maybe TSA should direct the airlines to rearrange the seating and put first and business classes in the rear of the airplane. That should befuddle the terrorists for a little while and is in keeping with TSA’s one-dimensional approach to security.

By: Hapgood

Hapgood — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:06:57 +0000

The first paragraph of my previous post is indeed serious. It reflects actual TSA statements. Truth really is stranger than any fiction. As for the rest, you’ll have to decide for yourself.

In complete seriousness, I was hoping that the Obama administration would make a priority of reviewing the effectiveness and appropriateness of TSA policies and practices. The TSA’s entire operation reflects the Bush administration’s approach to “security” that was pretty much as Mr Bad Example describes. It really is unconscionable that travelers are held accountable for obeying secret rules that they can’t know about until they violate them and are punished for it. Unfortunately, the Obama administration has so many intractable problems to deal with that the TSA has to be pretty far down on the list. So the TSA continues to operate as a lasting remnant of the Bush administration’s utter contempt for the rule of law.

By: Carrie Charney

Carrie Charney — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:58:22 +0000

@ Mr. Bad Example:

You mean you took Hapgood literally? Did I miss something here??

By: Louise

Louise — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:24:51 +0000

I think “Hapgood” really has a point. Everybody should just pee all over the plane in the interest of security. Let it all spew out.