Comments on: The Terrorist Watchlist exposed: Where do they come up with all those names? http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/notes-from-the-keeper-of-the-terrorist-watchlist/ The last honest travel site Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tim http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/notes-from-the-keeper-of-the-terrorist-watchlist/comment-page-1/#comment-18455 Tim Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:49:21 +0000 http://www.consumertraveler.com/?p=23057#comment-18455 That "no fly" list is ridiculous. I favor the allowing of people to travel and meet freely (like the amendment in the US Constitution), so I think the more important thing to check is what is flying, not who is flying. I can see the information that So-and-So is flying would be interesting to the intelligence/police agency that is trailing the person but should not prevent the person unless they are carrying something that is verboten on planes. And as TJ Thornton points out indirectly, what is considered verboten needs to be changed. For instance, the knives that his daughter were carrying--unless they were Bowie knives like the one "Crocodile Dundee" used, then they are probably poor tools to hijack and airplane and should be allowed. That “no fly” list is ridiculous. I favor the allowing of people to travel and meet freely (like the amendment in the US Constitution), so I think the more important thing to check is what is flying, not who is flying. I can see the information that So-and-So is flying would be interesting to the intelligence/police agency that is trailing the person but should not prevent the person unless they are carrying something that is verboten on planes.

And as TJ Thornton points out indirectly, what is considered verboten needs to be changed. For instance, the knives that his daughter were carrying–unless they were Bowie knives like the one “Crocodile Dundee” used, then they are probably poor tools to hijack and airplane and should be allowed.

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]]> By: TJ Thornton http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/notes-from-the-keeper-of-the-terrorist-watchlist/comment-page-1/#comment-18416 TJ Thornton Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:12:14 +0000 http://www.consumertraveler.com/?p=23057#comment-18416 It's also culled from security check point stops. My daughter, who at the last minute before leaving home for a trip, grabbed a backpack she didn't check before using. It contained 'contraband' in the outside pocket, as her hubby had used it for his last hunting trip. Two of his little hunting knives were tucked into the side pocket. Besides the 6-page 'threateningly' worded letter, and the $250 fine, she's now on the 'no-fly' list and has to appeal that. So, when they say, did you pack your own bag, they also mean did you check your own bag before you packed it. If you don't, you could be spending much time and money trying to remove yourself from the list. Personally, I find the 170 number given for the 'no-fly' list ridiculous, as I know of 2 more people who have had similar problems. Of course, those could be the people who decided to appeal and not pay the fine, and will be on the list for at least another year. It’s also culled from security check point stops. My daughter, who at the last minute before leaving home for a trip, grabbed a backpack she didn’t check before using. It contained ‘contraband’ in the outside pocket, as her hubby had used it for his last hunting trip. Two of his little hunting knives were tucked into the side pocket. Besides the 6-page ‘threateningly’ worded letter, and the $250 fine, she’s now on the ‘no-fly’ list and has to appeal that. So, when they say, did you pack your own bag, they also mean did you check your own bag before you packed it. If you don’t, you could be spending much time and money trying to remove yourself from the list. Personally, I find the 170 number given for the ‘no-fly’ list ridiculous, as I know of 2 more people who have had similar problems. Of course, those could be the people who decided to appeal and not pay the fine, and will be on the list for at least another year.

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