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		<title>By: Nawar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nawar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we know for a fact that tripadvisor does not verify the accuracy for their reviews, you can read about our story here: http://www.elliott.org/blog/we-are-not-crooks/ ; and they refuse to remove our hotel from their site so they can rack up the ad dollars! ; this is why we launched our own ad free hotel review site.

Regards,
Nawar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we know for a fact that tripadvisor does not verify the accuracy for their reviews, you can read about our story here: <a href="http://www.elliott.org/blog/we-are-not-crooks/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elliott.org/blog/we-are-not-crooks/</a> ; and they refuse to remove our hotel from their site so they can rack up the ad dollars! ; this is why we launched our own ad free hotel review site.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Nawar</p>
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		<title>By: Pick a London hotel for your vacation, the easy way &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pick a London hotel for your vacation, the easy way &#8211; Part 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] review site. However over the last few months questions have been asked about its impartiality see http://bit.ly/wWzuS and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alla Dolce Vita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alla Dolce Vita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallo everybody,
I&#039;am reading this good article from Italy where this scandal it&#039;s growing day by day.
There are two parties damaged by Tripadvisor, as it&#039;s working: 
1) the travellers who belive that they are reading a trustable information source, and 
2) the touristic accommodations reviewed with fake defamatory reviews.

Tripadvisor’s slogan “Get the Trhuth. Then go” it’s compleately FAKE. 

Tripadvisor cannot certify and guarantee the content of what it’s published and this because they are keep on letting the writer be anonimous and at the same time they do not certify that the writer it’s a real traveller who have confirmed a paid a real booking  and so that he or she has spent a real holiday in the accomodation reviewed: anybody can write a review...even without having seen on a postacard the accomodation reviewed!

They claimed and keep on claiming to the world,  to have a Super Sophisticated Algoritm which it’s capable of detecting fake reviews...but why it’s not working?

The biggest point of weakness it’s Tripadvisor’policy to keep the writer-traveller anonimous.

This choice offers a “rules’ land free” where anybody can say everything without being identified, to certify the authenticity and the responsability of what it’s claimed.

But let’s go to straight to the interpretation’ key of this big “show”.
Who is going to gain money from this?...the owner of Tripadvisor....who is?...guess...yes! it’s Expedia!

Tripadvisor, draws milions of travellers promising true and genuine information ( which it’s impossible !) and then,  in the same page where you can read the reviews, it “gives as a gift” the chance to know availability of the accomodation reviewed and ALL competitors sorted by distance in meters!
The availability offered it’s “kindly” shown by Expedia and all the booking engines owned, controlled or partnered with Expedia.

Obviously, Tripadvisor list ALL accomodations, not only the ones who are bookable through Expedia: this because they are exploiting good names and fame of all accommodations with a good presence on searching engines, with the”excuse” to be the “voice of thruth”, without being, and at the same time sales the accomodations througt Expedia &amp; co’ booking engines.
This is unfair competition for all accommodations which do not sale their rooms through Expedia &amp; co. ....even because Expedia could claim as a fee on the overall value of confirmed booking more then 30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A black dangerous shadow it’s growing from Tripadvisor, because “managing” this public image of the accomodations and tourism related businesses, actually they could boost some of them and penalize some other, always in the view to squize the top possible income from this business.
We hope that this doubt will be soon erased by Expedia and Tripadvisor so to let the free market keep on being free and fair.

We have invited hundred times Tripadvisor to reply to those lawful questions, but nobody has never replied:

1) How can you certify that the review’s writer has stayed in the accommodation reviewed?
2) How can you guarantee that the writer it’s not a fake one, an unfair competitor, or a joker?
3) How can you ensure that what it’s written in the review, from the “potential” guest’s accomodation, it’s what really happened?
4) How can you guarantee the thruth, the genuineness, originality and source of the review?
5) In what consit the checks and controls you claimd to do on the reviews? How many checks have been made on all the reviews you claimd to have published?
6) In Italy we have a law which protect privacy of individuals and companies: why you list identifying details ( e.g: names, address, pictures, details od personnels ) of properties whitout asking a permission to the owner/manager/header?
7) Why on www.tripadvisor.it you don’t show your legal address, the addresses of your offices, telephone numbers and responsible manager of the sensitive data?
8 ) In order to protect our good name from public defamatory fake reviews, we ask to know writer details : why you don’t supply this information ?
9) How many of the published reviews on Tripadvisor are true and linked to a real booking confirmed and paid by a real identifiable user?
10)  Why you keep on using the slogn  “Get the Truth then go” which dresses Tripadvisor’s contents as truthful, when you are NOT able to certify the source and truthfulness of what it’s stated in the reviews?


We kindly invite who is in charge for Expedia and Tripadvisor, to reply to those questions to clarify this situation as soon as possible.

Kind regards

Alla Dolce Vita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo everybody,<br />
I&#8217;am reading this good article from Italy where this scandal it&#8217;s growing day by day.<br />
There are two parties damaged by Tripadvisor, as it&#8217;s working:<br />
1) the travellers who belive that they are reading a trustable information source, and<br />
2) the touristic accommodations reviewed with fake defamatory reviews.</p>
<p>Tripadvisor’s slogan “Get the Trhuth. Then go” it’s compleately FAKE. </p>
<p>Tripadvisor cannot certify and guarantee the content of what it’s published and this because they are keep on letting the writer be anonimous and at the same time they do not certify that the writer it’s a real traveller who have confirmed a paid a real booking  and so that he or she has spent a real holiday in the accomodation reviewed: anybody can write a review&#8230;even without having seen on a postacard the accomodation reviewed!</p>
<p>They claimed and keep on claiming to the world,  to have a Super Sophisticated Algoritm which it’s capable of detecting fake reviews&#8230;but why it’s not working?</p>
<p>The biggest point of weakness it’s Tripadvisor’policy to keep the writer-traveller anonimous.</p>
<p>This choice offers a “rules’ land free” where anybody can say everything without being identified, to certify the authenticity and the responsability of what it’s claimed.</p>
<p>But let’s go to straight to the interpretation’ key of this big “show”.<br />
Who is going to gain money from this?&#8230;the owner of Tripadvisor&#8230;.who is?&#8230;guess&#8230;yes! it’s Expedia!</p>
<p>Tripadvisor, draws milions of travellers promising true and genuine information ( which it’s impossible !) and then,  in the same page where you can read the reviews, it “gives as a gift” the chance to know availability of the accomodation reviewed and ALL competitors sorted by distance in meters!<br />
The availability offered it’s “kindly” shown by Expedia and all the booking engines owned, controlled or partnered with Expedia.</p>
<p>Obviously, Tripadvisor list ALL accomodations, not only the ones who are bookable through Expedia: this because they are exploiting good names and fame of all accommodations with a good presence on searching engines, with the”excuse” to be the “voice of thruth”, without being, and at the same time sales the accomodations througt Expedia &amp; co’ booking engines.<br />
This is unfair competition for all accommodations which do not sale their rooms through Expedia &amp; co. &#8230;.even because Expedia could claim as a fee on the overall value of confirmed booking more then 30%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>A black dangerous shadow it’s growing from Tripadvisor, because “managing” this public image of the accomodations and tourism related businesses, actually they could boost some of them and penalize some other, always in the view to squize the top possible income from this business.<br />
We hope that this doubt will be soon erased by Expedia and Tripadvisor so to let the free market keep on being free and fair.</p>
<p>We have invited hundred times Tripadvisor to reply to those lawful questions, but nobody has never replied:</p>
<p>1) How can you certify that the review’s writer has stayed in the accommodation reviewed?<br />
2) How can you guarantee that the writer it’s not a fake one, an unfair competitor, or a joker?<br />
3) How can you ensure that what it’s written in the review, from the “potential” guest’s accomodation, it’s what really happened?<br />
4) How can you guarantee the thruth, the genuineness, originality and source of the review?<br />
5) In what consit the checks and controls you claimd to do on the reviews? How many checks have been made on all the reviews you claimd to have published?<br />
6) In Italy we have a law which protect privacy of individuals and companies: why you list identifying details ( e.g: names, address, pictures, details od personnels ) of properties whitout asking a permission to the owner/manager/header?<br />
7) Why on <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.it" rel="nofollow">http://www.tripadvisor.it</a> you don’t show your legal address, the addresses of your offices, telephone numbers and responsible manager of the sensitive data?<br />
8 ) In order to protect our good name from public defamatory fake reviews, we ask to know writer details : why you don’t supply this information ?<br />
9) How many of the published reviews on Tripadvisor are true and linked to a real booking confirmed and paid by a real identifiable user?<br />
10)  Why you keep on using the slogn  “Get the Truth then go” which dresses Tripadvisor’s contents as truthful, when you are NOT able to certify the source and truthfulness of what it’s stated in the reviews?</p>
<p>We kindly invite who is in charge for Expedia and Tripadvisor, to reply to those questions to clarify this situation as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Kind regards</p>
<p>Alla Dolce Vita</p>
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		<title>By: GreenfieldWI</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenfieldWI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose there is no truly foolproof system to getting good ratings. I know of someone who had asked for extra towels in a room and when housekeeping didn&#039;t get the request handled quickly enough, just flew off the handle. When he returned home, he had posted a negative review about how the hotel &quot;ignored his requests.&quot;  

Now, keep in mind, the guy is one of those self-important jerks we all come across from time to time, but you don&#039;t always know what motivates a person to leave a review. I always try too write objectively, because, really, if a pillow is too soft for me, does that really mean anything to anyone else? :)  Hopefully, though, the true review will outnumber the planted reviews or &quot;vindictive reviews&quot; at a given site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose there is no truly foolproof system to getting good ratings. I know of someone who had asked for extra towels in a room and when housekeeping didn&#8217;t get the request handled quickly enough, just flew off the handle. When he returned home, he had posted a negative review about how the hotel &#8220;ignored his requests.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Now, keep in mind, the guy is one of those self-important jerks we all come across from time to time, but you don&#8217;t always know what motivates a person to leave a review. I always try too write objectively, because, really, if a pillow is too soft for me, does that really mean anything to anyone else? :)  Hopefully, though, the true review will outnumber the planted reviews or &#8220;vindictive reviews&#8221; at a given site.</p>
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		<title>By: gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice to ignore the extreme reviews, on either side of the spectrum, is very good. The don&#039;t have to be fake to be misleading.  People get angy for silly reasons and take it out online, or get ecstatic for equally silly reasons.

I can&#039;t imagine a foolproof way to get honest and aithentic reviews in an essentially anonymous online venue.  TA, and other similar sites, might even require posters to povide proof that they actually stayed or ate at the facility,  Even that, though, wouldn&#039;t prevent bogus reviews.

Nor can I imagine  foolproofe way for these sites to detect bogus reviews. Perhaps if there was a way for users to grade or comment on the validity of reviews after they had visited the subject of the review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice to ignore the extreme reviews, on either side of the spectrum, is very good. The don&#8217;t have to be fake to be misleading.  People get angy for silly reasons and take it out online, or get ecstatic for equally silly reasons.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a foolproof way to get honest and aithentic reviews in an essentially anonymous online venue.  TA, and other similar sites, might even require posters to povide proof that they actually stayed or ate at the facility,  Even that, though, wouldn&#8217;t prevent bogus reviews.</p>
<p>Nor can I imagine  foolproofe way for these sites to detect bogus reviews. Perhaps if there was a way for users to grade or comment on the validity of reviews after they had visited the subject of the review.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Booking.com has what seems to be a good system. Its hotel reviews are limited to customers who have booked through the site. They are contacted by e-mail after the stay and invited to rate and review. It doesn&#039;t guarantee that customers have good judgment, but at least they were genuinely customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Booking.com has what seems to be a good system. Its hotel reviews are limited to customers who have booked through the site. They are contacted by e-mail after the stay and invited to rate and review. It doesn&#8217;t guarantee that customers have good judgment, but at least they were genuinely customers.</p>
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		<title>By: tripso.com &#124; New TripAdvisor whistleblower claims: some reviews &#8230; - Find Restaurants</title>
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		<dc:creator>tripso.com &#124; New TripAdvisor whistleblower claims: some reviews &#8230; - Find Restaurants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] admin wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptJohn Walker, who runs the Hotel Los Castaños — described as an intimate hotel of quality in Cartajima, a small village near Ronda, Spain, “with rooms ranging from stylishly economic to purely luxurious” — says rivals planted a bad review of his &#8230; It very quickly occurred to me that I could right in glowing reviews about my own restaurant and up my ratings numbers. Luckily, that wasn&#8217;t necessary at first. We had some great reviews from actual real life clients and we &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] admin wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptJohn Walker, who runs the Hotel Los Castaños — described as an intimate hotel of quality in Cartajima, a small village near Ronda, Spain, “with rooms ranging from stylishly economic to purely luxurious” — says rivals planted a bad review of his &#8230; It very quickly occurred to me that I could right in glowing reviews about my own restaurant and up my ratings numbers. Luckily, that wasn&#8217;t necessary at first. We had some great reviews from actual real life clients and we &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Linder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Linder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gentleman from Costa Rica had it right.  To get a fairly approximate score, discard the high and low outliers when you look at a review.  Actually, I usually ignore the number ratings altogether as they are too subjective.  Based on expectations, what might be a 3 to me is a 1 to someone else and a 5 to another person (also often based on price actually paid)

Yes, management can affect the numbers, particularly at smaller, less-reviewed establishments where reviews are less frequent.  But generally speaking I&#039;ve almost always been able to spot the questionable reviews.

Key phrase to avoid..

&quot;Best  ever!&quot;

Look for reviews with details, such as names, dates, specific activities.  See how many reviews the poster has.  And if ANYTHING is #1 on a list after just opening, take everything with a grain of salt.

Full disclosure, I am a Destination Expert on TA.  We work very closely with the TA staff to try to identify false entries, but even knowing the area like we do we cannot catch them all.  TA is a great source for reviews but should not be your only source.

And if you are not sure, post in the forums for that area, the DEs will be happy to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gentleman from Costa Rica had it right.  To get a fairly approximate score, discard the high and low outliers when you look at a review.  Actually, I usually ignore the number ratings altogether as they are too subjective.  Based on expectations, what might be a 3 to me is a 1 to someone else and a 5 to another person (also often based on price actually paid)</p>
<p>Yes, management can affect the numbers, particularly at smaller, less-reviewed establishments where reviews are less frequent.  But generally speaking I&#8217;ve almost always been able to spot the questionable reviews.</p>
<p>Key phrase to avoid..</p>
<p>&#8220;Best  ever!&#8221;</p>
<p>Look for reviews with details, such as names, dates, specific activities.  See how many reviews the poster has.  And if ANYTHING is #1 on a list after just opening, take everything with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>Full disclosure, I am a Destination Expert on TA.  We work very closely with the TA staff to try to identify false entries, but even knowing the area like we do we cannot catch them all.  TA is a great source for reviews but should not be your only source.</p>
<p>And if you are not sure, post in the forums for that area, the DEs will be happy to help.</p>
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