Comments on: How would you feel if you were photographed and fingerprinted at the U.K. border control?

By: joe madely

joe madely — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:25:12 +0000

Do you know why these measures (finger printing, biometric data, police state alert, checking your id at random) have been introduced around the world? I can tell you why here:

your goverment shas been hijacked/ overtaken by a powerful group of elite bankers that control even america today. Through bribery and threats, these governments are under the control of these powerful groups all these anti-terrorist measures: finger printing, biometric data etc is just a guise to control you, in the future. they will know what where you’ve been, what you’ve done, where you go shopping etc, they will have total control over your life. It will be a cashless society where all your data and money will be stored in RFID chips implanted into your hand. If you do something they don’t like they’ll simply cancel your money balances – total control! The technology to do all this aleady exists, they just need to implement it into your lives

Think about it: without the treat of terror, do you think the US government would be able to take away so many freedoms the US citizens have been enjoying previously. finger prints for dirving license, power to detrain and arrest without reason, indefinite imprisonment without reason. Wake up you’ve all been had!

research NEW WORLD ORDER to find out more

By: Mhoop

Mhoop — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:57:42 +0000

I certainly have a problem with this paranoid/corporate driven scheme.
The corporations that dream up the technology to make all these things happen is partly to blame. There’s plenty of money to be made selling the equipment–and replacing it with “newer” stuff in an endless cycle; training the users; providing tech assistance; and following up with selling the systems and equipment to the governments that will use what they know to control us, body and soul, eventually.
If we show any indication of protesting anything the people in control do, we’ll be easy to scoop up and make disappear, unless they give us a break and send us end to a re-education camp.
My late husband was in US Navy spy program. He always said that civilians don’t look far enough ahead, while the military trains its people to plan for any contingency they can imagine. IMO, he was right on.
INFORMATION IS POWER and it can be used against us because there are too many people in the world who will go along to get along and they will end up sending the rest of us to purgatory if we show any signs of protest, or are a pest to someone in the chain of command.
Call me crazy, if you want, but if you study history you will see that every tyranny in history has squashed dissent and done what it takes to stay in power.
Those who think they are just going to live their lives despite this technology had better use some imagination, read some history, and think again. Your definition of harmless just might not agree with the definition of harmless defined by people who have control of this information. And they will have the last word about your travels, even your life. I’m glad I’m too old to live long enough to see what’s coming.
Example: Climate change will affect you when the hordes scramble for high ground. Denial will get you nowhere when somebody in power wants your above the high water mark home for his family.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:17:12 +0000

Is one of the reasons that Chicago was eliminated from Olympic consideration the fact that we have made it more difficult for foreigners to enter our country? We are losing foreign tourists partly because our visa and entry requirements are onerous to foreign tourists. They take their money elsewhere.

By: Please take our biometrics survey

Please take our biometrics survey — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:51:05 +0000

[...] A ConsumerTraveler.com post about the growing use of biometrics can be read here. [...]

By: Jack Norell

Jack Norell — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:56:34 +0000

I, for one, don’t have much of an issue with the biometrics at border controls. After all, it’s up to each country to have final say on who can cross its borders. It’s not a privacy issue, you can elect not to travel quite easily, which would make this a non-issue.

However, the U.S. should make the process smoother for everyone, especially in getting tourists visas for non-ESTA countries.

And saying that other countries’ data controls are ‘dubious’ is a spurious claim: Foreigners do for good reason feel the same about U.S. controls. These are not only opaque, but without any judicial oversights for the traveler, the traveler’s government, or even U.S. Congress!

By: Patp

Patp — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:39:19 +0000

Funny, I just left UK, ans saw quit a few people being fingerprinted.
Was wondering what it was about, I was not fingerprinted.

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:46:30 +0000

I still disagree with (what I perceive as) your inability to distinguish between (A) governmental scrutiny and (B) tyranny. As I have said many times in response to your posts, I don’t care what the government knows about me, as long as it doesn’t try to prevent me from doing things that are harmless. I wish you and others felt the same way.

But, even so, I must acknowledge that this survey is far better than the one you put together on the millimeter wave scanners. The questions were not leading, and it seemed designed to collect information (which is the proper role for a survey) rather than influence opinion (which is an unethical use of a survey). I would have preferred for Question 4 to be divided into two parts, one dealing with collection of information, and another dealing with information sharing to commercial entities — but that is simply an issue of design, not of ethics or politics. I appreciate the improvement in survey construction.