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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dalit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 08:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have previously posted under Ned Levi&#039;s article, but just want to say I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with CREST.  RCCL&#039;s decision to return immediately to Labadee is ridiculously insensitive, and the fact that they are disguising it with their good intentions to help instead of the fact that it wouldn&#039;t be profitable for them to lose the port, is shameful.  Nothing is 100% to either side, and I agree RCCL is doing some good on the way, but overall it was a very bad idea to continue Labadee visits as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have previously posted under Ned Levi&#8217;s article, but just want to say I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with CREST.  RCCL&#8217;s decision to return immediately to Labadee is ridiculously insensitive, and the fact that they are disguising it with their good intentions to help instead of the fact that it wouldn&#8217;t be profitable for them to lose the port, is shameful.  Nothing is 100% to either side, and I agree RCCL is doing some good on the way, but overall it was a very bad idea to continue Labadee visits as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Townsend Elion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Townsend Elion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write for this site, and in my day job, I work for Catholic Relief Services -  one of the world&#039;s largest NGOs working in international relief and development. 

CRS is currently running several large relief programs in Haiti. We are delivering about 62 metric tons of food a day, we helped restore the St. Francis de Sales hospital to working condition, and our medical teams are treating an estimated 300 patients a day. 

People, and groups, are entitled to their opinions about the correctness of RCCL returning to Haiti, but CREST, quoting the NYT,  is vastly overstating the security problems of Haiti at this moment, and oversimplifying with the type of &#039;help&#039; they suggest RCCL might give to that country in lieu of continuing their operations there. 

While there is tension wrought by the extreme need of the people, our staff in Port au Prince have found on balance that the Haitian people are patient, resilient, and grateful for assistance. A colleague remarked that the sporatic acts of desperation-fueled violence he had witnessed or heard about in Haiti did not seem to outnumber the melees reported during the American Black Friday sales. Please remember, the Haitians are not fighting over flatscreen TVs - they are starving, hurt and homeless, and they need our help.

It would be unrealisitc to expect RCCL, without any prior experience in humanitarian disasters, to be able to render any but the most simple of acts of assistance. To suggest that this firm is somehow damaging the country by continuing to provide some revenues to a very needy nation, and the promise of normalcy in a world starved of the mundane at this moment,is the height of irresponsiblity on their part. 

Several of their suggestions smack of inexperience instantly - cruise ships and their ports are not configured properly to carry and deliver relief supplies, workers need faster transportation to the area than a cruise ship, the idea of housing displaced Haitians at the port in realitiy only means transplating the refugee crisis, not helping it - for Haitians with no prior ties to Labadee, its not feasible to move them temporarily a hundred miles to the coast for relief activities. Housing relief wrokers on ships is likewise impractical - it removes them from quick access to the areas they need to work.

CREST should stick to offering suggestions on how to limit one&#039;s carbon admissions. And I gotta wonder, how much assistance have they offered to Haiti? What? They say they&#039;re not in the relief business?  Well, neither is RCCL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write for this site, and in my day job, I work for Catholic Relief Services &#8211;  one of the world&#8217;s largest NGOs working in international relief and development. </p>
<p>CRS is currently running several large relief programs in Haiti. We are delivering about 62 metric tons of food a day, we helped restore the St. Francis de Sales hospital to working condition, and our medical teams are treating an estimated 300 patients a day. </p>
<p>People, and groups, are entitled to their opinions about the correctness of RCCL returning to Haiti, but CREST, quoting the NYT,  is vastly overstating the security problems of Haiti at this moment, and oversimplifying with the type of &#8216;help&#8217; they suggest RCCL might give to that country in lieu of continuing their operations there. </p>
<p>While there is tension wrought by the extreme need of the people, our staff in Port au Prince have found on balance that the Haitian people are patient, resilient, and grateful for assistance. A colleague remarked that the sporatic acts of desperation-fueled violence he had witnessed or heard about in Haiti did not seem to outnumber the melees reported during the American Black Friday sales. Please remember, the Haitians are not fighting over flatscreen TVs &#8211; they are starving, hurt and homeless, and they need our help.</p>
<p>It would be unrealisitc to expect RCCL, without any prior experience in humanitarian disasters, to be able to render any but the most simple of acts of assistance. To suggest that this firm is somehow damaging the country by continuing to provide some revenues to a very needy nation, and the promise of normalcy in a world starved of the mundane at this moment,is the height of irresponsiblity on their part. </p>
<p>Several of their suggestions smack of inexperience instantly &#8211; cruise ships and their ports are not configured properly to carry and deliver relief supplies, workers need faster transportation to the area than a cruise ship, the idea of housing displaced Haitians at the port in realitiy only means transplating the refugee crisis, not helping it &#8211; for Haitians with no prior ties to Labadee, its not feasible to move them temporarily a hundred miles to the coast for relief activities. Housing relief wrokers on ships is likewise impractical &#8211; it removes them from quick access to the areas they need to work.</p>
<p>CREST should stick to offering suggestions on how to limit one&#8217;s carbon admissions. And I gotta wonder, how much assistance have they offered to Haiti? What? They say they&#8217;re not in the relief business?  Well, neither is RCCL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DaveS</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 03:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know anything about that organization CREST, but I doubt they&#039;ve done a fraction for Haiti of what RCCL has done. CREST is all about &quot;unsightly&quot; images; RCCL is about providing jobs to Haitians who really need them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about that organization CREST, but I doubt they&#8217;ve done a fraction for Haiti of what RCCL has done. CREST is all about &#8220;unsightly&#8221; images; RCCL is about providing jobs to Haitians who really need them.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might change the photo to one that shows some of the suffering in Haiti -- maybe a child with a newly amputated leg or arm sleeping outside under a tent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might change the photo to one that shows some of the suffering in Haiti &#8212; maybe a child with a newly amputated leg or arm sleeping outside under a tent.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey for RCCL.    I feel sure those men and women that work for RCCL want to keep their jobs and their salaries instead of looking for hand-outs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey for RCCL.    I feel sure those men and women that work for RCCL want to keep their jobs and their salaries instead of looking for hand-outs.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Wechsler</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/haiti-all-hands-on-deck-not-business-as-usual/comment-page-1/#comment-19418</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always suspicious of groups like this. Who funds them and what are their credentials. The name sounds good but what&#039;s the real story? I agree wholeheartedly with the above comments. Where does CREST propose that RCCL land all the aid? The port of Port-au-Prince is in worse shape than the airport and is having difficulty dealing with ships trying to unload there without RCCL adding to the confusion. There aren&#039;t appropriate facilities at Labadee for large scale cargo traffic, and even if there were, getting large amounts of supplies from there to PAP would be a nightmare because of the roads. It sounds to me like the CREST folks are sitting in an ivory tower somewhere, completely divorced from reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always suspicious of groups like this. Who funds them and what are their credentials. The name sounds good but what&#8217;s the real story? I agree wholeheartedly with the above comments. Where does CREST propose that RCCL land all the aid? The port of Port-au-Prince is in worse shape than the airport and is having difficulty dealing with ships trying to unload there without RCCL adding to the confusion. There aren&#8217;t appropriate facilities at Labadee for large scale cargo traffic, and even if there were, getting large amounts of supplies from there to PAP would be a nightmare because of the roads. It sounds to me like the CREST folks are sitting in an ivory tower somewhere, completely divorced from reality.</p>
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		<title>By: SpotLight</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpotLight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RCCL is not a charity and anything they do or have done for Haiti is a  voluntary gift and should be applauded.

CREST is a 501c3 charity and they claim to be &quot;an instrument for biodiversity conservation and poverty alleviation.&quot; However, not one of their &quot;projects&quot; has ever had anything to do with Haiti. 

This is a  tax exempt liberal operation that is do what I say and not what I do. In 2008 they took in $929,000 and spent $703,000 which included $236,000 for salaries and benefits. It is an exercise for the reader of their Federal tax return to determine if their good works are nothing more than free paid travel &quot;to assess&quot;, &quot;to encourage&quot;, and &quot;market.&quot;

I suggest CREST  have their supporters donate their personal automobiles for transportation in Haiti and bring Haitian refugees to stay with them in their private residences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RCCL is not a charity and anything they do or have done for Haiti is a  voluntary gift and should be applauded.</p>
<p>CREST is a 501c3 charity and they claim to be &#8220;an instrument for biodiversity conservation and poverty alleviation.&#8221; However, not one of their &#8220;projects&#8221; has ever had anything to do with Haiti. </p>
<p>This is a  tax exempt liberal operation that is do what I say and not what I do. In 2008 they took in $929,000 and spent $703,000 which included $236,000 for salaries and benefits. It is an exercise for the reader of their Federal tax return to determine if their good works are nothing more than free paid travel &#8220;to assess&#8221;, &#8220;to encourage&#8221;, and &#8220;market.&#8221;</p>
<p>I suggest CREST  have their supporters donate their personal automobiles for transportation in Haiti and bring Haitian refugees to stay with them in their private residences.</p>
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		<title>By: John Frenaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Frenaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they serious? So because of a disaster in a country where they maintain a port, because they call on the port, they are expected to give up several ships to a)shuttle people and supplies and b)house the injured?

YEs, CCL offered up a ship--one that was scheduled to go into drydock for a retrofit.

But RCCL is a business and with their new ship, they need to remain profitable so they can  continue to call on Labadee.  If they did as CREST suggests, they would risk serious financial consequences.

RCCL is a socially conscious business and they are doing a lot more for Haiti than other cruise lines. What have the airlines that fly into there done? 

The response from CREST is absurd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they serious? So because of a disaster in a country where they maintain a port, because they call on the port, they are expected to give up several ships to a)shuttle people and supplies and b)house the injured?</p>
<p>YEs, CCL offered up a ship&#8211;one that was scheduled to go into drydock for a retrofit.</p>
<p>But RCCL is a business and with their new ship, they need to remain profitable so they can  continue to call on Labadee.  If they did as CREST suggests, they would risk serious financial consequences.</p>
<p>RCCL is a socially conscious business and they are doing a lot more for Haiti than other cruise lines. What have the airlines that fly into there done? </p>
<p>The response from CREST is absurd!</p>
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		<title>By: vacationagent</title>
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		<dc:creator>vacationagent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name Center for Responsible Travel certainly sounds good but they&#039;ve missed the mark on this by downplaying, denigrating, and ridiculing  RCCL&#039;s very large corporate committment to Haiti and the company&#039;s assistance in the relief effort. RCCL&#039;s fleet makes regular stops at Labadee and in the course of those stops they are delivering much needed humanitarian aid that they are coordinating distribution of with the UN and the US military.  

As for the precedent of cruise ships housing Katrina refugees - the U.S. government contracted with Carnival for those cabins but there weren&#039;t acutally refugees aboard. 

As for CREST&#039;s denigrating the economic impact of the daytrippers on cruise ships - CREST needs a reality check. Haiti doesn&#039;t have a tourism industry. Instead of throwing stones at RCCL for doing what they are doing (which by any estimation is significant), why don&#039;t they look beyond the surface and find out why Haiti doesn&#039;t have substantial tourist facilities? Maybe they&#039;d like to ask Four Seasons (or some other) why they don&#039;t build a resort there. The Haitian guards were at Labadee long before the earthquake, by the way. It is also my understanding that RCCL is assisting in finding/helping their Haitian workers who were in country at the time of the earthquake.  

Out of personal curiosity, I would like to know how many CREST members have ever set foot in Haiti for tourism purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Center for Responsible Travel certainly sounds good but they&#8217;ve missed the mark on this by downplaying, denigrating, and ridiculing  RCCL&#8217;s very large corporate committment to Haiti and the company&#8217;s assistance in the relief effort. RCCL&#8217;s fleet makes regular stops at Labadee and in the course of those stops they are delivering much needed humanitarian aid that they are coordinating distribution of with the UN and the US military.  </p>
<p>As for the precedent of cruise ships housing Katrina refugees &#8211; the U.S. government contracted with Carnival for those cabins but there weren&#8217;t acutally refugees aboard. </p>
<p>As for CREST&#8217;s denigrating the economic impact of the daytrippers on cruise ships &#8211; CREST needs a reality check. Haiti doesn&#8217;t have a tourism industry. Instead of throwing stones at RCCL for doing what they are doing (which by any estimation is significant), why don&#8217;t they look beyond the surface and find out why Haiti doesn&#8217;t have substantial tourist facilities? Maybe they&#8217;d like to ask Four Seasons (or some other) why they don&#8217;t build a resort there. The Haitian guards were at Labadee long before the earthquake, by the way. It is also my understanding that RCCL is assisting in finding/helping their Haitian workers who were in country at the time of the earthquake.  </p>
<p>Out of personal curiosity, I would like to know how many CREST members have ever set foot in Haiti for tourism purposes.</p>
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