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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-39690</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Whole Body Scanner can easily be defeated by an individual carrying an
explosive formulation.   The amount of explosive required to totally damage the flight
deck is about 500 grams.

The Canadian government know the sequence of events needed to cause damage to
an aircraft via the above.   The probability of success for the attacker is
much better than 50%   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Whole Body Scanner can easily be defeated by an individual carrying an<br />
explosive formulation.   The amount of explosive required to totally damage the flight<br />
deck is about 500 grams.</p>
<p>The Canadian government know the sequence of events needed to cause damage to<br />
an aircraft via the above.   The probability of success for the attacker is<br />
much better than 50%  </p>
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		<title>By: Scanned but not searched &#171; Phil Ebersole&#039;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-29488</link>
		<dc:creator>Scanned but not searched &#171; Phil Ebersole&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on GAO: No formal testing for whole-body scanners for background on lack of testing of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TSA moves forward with untested, costly whole-body scanner deployment</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-21107</link>
		<dc:creator>TSA moves forward with untested, costly whole-body scanner deployment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] broke the story from a House homeland security committee hearing that GAO had ascertained that the whole-body scanners had not been properly tested by the government prior to being [...]</description>
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		<title>By: As Body Scanners are introduced, more and more issues arise &#171; Orwell&#39;s Dreams</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-21097</link>
		<dc:creator>As Body Scanners are introduced, more and more issues arise &#171; Orwell&#39;s Dreams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this expense, and yet the scanners had not been field-tested before their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-19815</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hapgood - your attitude is what gives the TSA their power.  If I don&#039;t fly I don&#039;t make money.  Simple as that.  I, for one, am NOT rearranging my life to accomodate the taking away of basic civil liberites.


My answer, an ACLU desk at every security point.   Hold them accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hapgood &#8211; your attitude is what gives the TSA their power.  If I don&#8217;t fly I don&#8217;t make money.  Simple as that.  I, for one, am NOT rearranging my life to accomodate the taking away of basic civil liberites.</p>
<p>My answer, an ACLU desk at every security point.   Hold them accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Leocha February 9, 2010 at 9:15 pm 
Sorry, but according to the TSA, DHS and GAO, commenting before Congress in October 2009, these machines have not been independently tested by the government.
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SORRY?  dont be sorry if you think your right.  That&#039;s why sites like this are educational.  It invites debate, opinions and comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Leocha February 9, 2010 at 9:15 pm<br />
Sorry, but according to the TSA, DHS and GAO, commenting before Congress in October 2009, these machines have not been independently tested by the government.<br />
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<p>SORRY?  dont be sorry if you think your right.  That&#8217;s why sites like this are educational.  It invites debate, opinions and comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel Wechsler February 10, 2010 at 10:09 am 
Well, the Oct. 2007 story was from Fox News, after all.
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Is the LA TIMES more credilible to YOU????
http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/phoenix-airport-secu-850/

 Charlie Leocha February 9, 2010 at 9:15 pm 
Sorry, but according to the TSA, DHS and GAO, commenting before Congress in October 2009, these machines have not been independently tested by the government.
===================================================


The TSA test will determine how well the ProVision machine, made by government contractor L-3 Communications, finds weapons and whether it can operate quickly enough to replace metal detectors at checkpoints. Similar machines are used at courthouse entrances in Los Angeles, Chicago and Washington, and at airports in Amsterdam, Madrid and Moscow.

The TSA bought eight ProVisions for $1.7 million and will test them at Los Angeles and New York&#039;s Kennedy airports shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel Wechsler February 10, 2010 at 10:09 am<br />
Well, the Oct. 2007 story was from Fox News, after all.<br />
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<p>Is the LA TIMES more credilible to YOU????<br />
<a href="http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/phoenix-airport-secu-850/" rel="nofollow">http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/phoenix-airport-secu-850/</a></p>
<p> Charlie Leocha February 9, 2010 at 9:15 pm<br />
Sorry, but according to the TSA, DHS and GAO, commenting before Congress in October 2009, these machines have not been independently tested by the government.<br />
===================================================</p>
<p>The TSA test will determine how well the ProVision machine, made by government contractor L-3 Communications, finds weapons and whether it can operate quickly enough to replace metal detectors at checkpoints. Similar machines are used at courthouse entrances in Los Angeles, Chicago and Washington, and at airports in Amsterdam, Madrid and Moscow.</p>
<p>The TSA bought eight ProVisions for $1.7 million and will test them at Los Angeles and New York&#8217;s Kennedy airports shortly.</p>
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		<title>By: Hapgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hapgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Susan: Petty, nasty, rude TSA employees and zero options to fight it, it’s so frustrating.

There actually is a simple way to fight it and to completely avoid frustration. It can be boiled down to one simple, magic word: &quot;No!&quot;

Instead of being frustrated, just say no to the TSA and to the airlines. Buy a guidebook or two and discover all the treasures you&#039;ve overlooked in your own home town. Or buy a ticket on Amtrak, and spend a few extra days watching the panoramic vistas of America slowly parade by your window. There are lots of options, actually, once you get over the notion that travel always requires flying. Try an alternative that doesn&#039;t involve flying, and see how much more enjoyable it is!

Unfortunately, that&#039;s really the only thing we can do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Susan: Petty, nasty, rude TSA employees and zero options to fight it, it’s so frustrating.</p>
<p>There actually is a simple way to fight it and to completely avoid frustration. It can be boiled down to one simple, magic word: &#8220;No!&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead of being frustrated, just say no to the TSA and to the airlines. Buy a guidebook or two and discover all the treasures you&#8217;ve overlooked in your own home town. Or buy a ticket on Amtrak, and spend a few extra days watching the panoramic vistas of America slowly parade by your window. There are lots of options, actually, once you get over the notion that travel always requires flying. Try an alternative that doesn&#8217;t involve flying, and see how much more enjoyable it is!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that&#8217;s really the only thing we can do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At SLC opting to go the standard route and not through the scanner is interpreted by the TSA as &quot;I have something to hide.&quot;  It&#039;s like one is punished for choosing not to go through it.  You can 100% guarantee you&#039;ll get stopped for &quot;additional screening.&quot;  This restricition of our civil liberties has GOT TO STOP but no one in Congress will do a damn thing.  Petty, nasty, rude TSA employees and zero options to fight it, it&#039;s so frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At SLC opting to go the standard route and not through the scanner is interpreted by the TSA as &#8220;I have something to hide.&#8221;  It&#8217;s like one is punished for choosing not to go through it.  You can 100% guarantee you&#8217;ll get stopped for &#8220;additional screening.&#8221;  This restricition of our civil liberties has GOT TO STOP but no one in Congress will do a damn thing.  Petty, nasty, rude TSA employees and zero options to fight it, it&#8217;s so frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Wechsler</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/today/gao-no-formal-testing-for-whole-body-scanners/comment-page-1/#comment-19758</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Oct. 2007 story was from Fox News, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Oct. 2007 story was from Fox News, after all.</p>
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