Down on Delta: A codeshare bumping drama with an open end

by Janice Hough on June 16, 2009

Delta Air Lines has been touting their merger with Northwest and Skyteam alliance as a benefit for consumers. On the Skyteam site, along with some of the other self-promotion, is the claim, “SkyTeam helps make your travels smoother, simplified and informed.”

Well, based on a recent Delta-Northwest/Air France-KLM Skyteam debacle, “smoother, simplified and informed” are not exactly the terms I would use.

Editor’s note: The saga that follows is ongoing. Though KLM operates its flights under its own colors, it is not independent. It is part of Air France-KLM. Air France does have offices in the U.S. Further complicating the final outcome for this situation are evolving DOT regulations regarding responsibility for customer service on codeshare flights. Regulations regarding luggage problems clearly place responsibility with the contracting carrier — in this case Delta. But does that responsibility extend to bumping and other customer service areas?

Old Northwest Airlines never set marks for customer relations, especially as far as travel agents are concerned. The airline largely did away with sales representatives, and calls to their sales office result simply in punching in various numbers only to receive canned answers.

However, a recent travel experience lowered their already substandard service to a whole new level.

The clients in question were taking a tour from Amsterdam. Since they were both in their 80s, they wanted the easiest option. At the time, I suggested a Delta-Northwest/Air France-KLM nonstop, casually saying, “It’s not that I think the airline is great, but they do have the only nonstop.” Famous last words.

Their outbound flight was uneventful. The night before their return, however, our agency received a computer message from Delta-Northwest, saying that their reservation had been canceled, and they had been “protected” on a connection via Minneapolis.

I called Delta-Northwest, (KLM has no separate reservations number in the United States), and asked what happened. Apparently the airline had decided to use a smaller aircraft that day, which meant that many people with confirmed tickets, even including nonrefundable tickets, could not be accommodated. The cheerful agent said, well, they will get compensation.

When I argued that these clients were in their 80s and that they would probably prefer the nonstop even to compensation, I was told, by the agent and her supervisor, that there was nothing they could do. They did again indicate, that because it was an EU flight, that the compensation would either be cash, in the amount of several hundred dollars for both of them, or more money if they chose a voucher.

When the clients returned, however, it was a different story. First, the connection Air France-KLM put them on was delayed in Minneapolis. So what might have been about four hours additional travel time, turned into over ten additional hours. But when I asked about compensation, the husband handed me a blue and white card. And only a blue and white card. Printed in English and in Dutch.

Today unforeseen circumstances have made it necessary for us to use a different kind of aircraft for your flight. This unfortunately means that there are not enough seats available and we are forced to offer you an alternative flight to your final destination. We offer you our apologies for the situation this causes for you.

Because your flights will be departing from an EU country, you are entitled to compensation, which you can receive via Air France-KLM customer care. Please visit www.klm.com to contact customer care in your country of residence.

Despite this inconvenience we wish you a pleasant trip and hope you will continue to use KLM and Skyteam.

Well, leaving aside the fact that not everyone, especially people in their 80s, use computers, this was not exactly the “compensation at the airport” they were promised.

In addition, I am a pretty good computer researcher, and it took quite a while on the klm.com website to even find any contact information. The site allowed you to print out a brochure showing the rules, and on page 6 of the brochure, there were directions to a different part of the site for instructions on how to contact KLM. There was a phone number, but after calling and going through the phone tree (press one, press two, etc.) I got the “due to high call volume we are unable to take your call at this time” response.

So I told the client I would email for him. After all KLM had a statement that if “you choose to contact Customer Car by email, you will receive a response within five days.”

So, I wrote Customer Care a detailed email, including ticket numbers so they could access the information. A week later, after no response, the client and I went back to the site again. Called the phone number again. Same response.

The next step, calling Delta-Northwest Airlines and asking a supervisor what the next step was. She offered the phone number, I explained that it wasn’t being answered. To her credit she was apologetic, said that was the only number they had too, but she gave us information on how to get a form faxed to us.

The fun continued. The form required a fair amount of information, ticket numbers, flights, explanation, etc. And it said we would receive a response by mail, in “approximately 30 days.” So I filled it out with information from our computer files and faxed it in.

This was about 35 days ago. And who knows? We may actually get a response sometime soon. But nothing yet, not even the little postcard that some airlines send saying “We have received your correspondence and will get back to you.” And surprise, surprise, the message saying that “due to a high call volume….” is still the only phone response I can get.

Legally, Air France-KLM is on the hook for compensation, so as frustrating as this is, I feel pretty confident the client will eventually get something, although as he says, “Time does matter here, I’m so old I don’t even buy green bananas.”

The fact that KLM has no real U.S. presence other than Delta-Northwest also has limited the possibilities for human intervention. (I will try top contact Air France with the hopes of uncovering a human being.) One nice, but admittedly helpless, Delta-Northwest agent suggested that maybe I try to find out if KLM had a number in the Netherlands and call them. (Besides the cost and time difference, I can’t imagine they answer that number any more than they answer their U.S. number.)

And I have to wonder if this is the point. Make the process complicated and cumbersome enough, and some number of clients will give up. Especially when a non-frequent travel may not know there are specific customer service laws about flights leaving the EU and the interlocking ownership matrix.

While the idealist in me would like to think that as Delta and Skyteam fine tune their alliances that this sort of problem won’t happen this often, the realist in me says, this is the codeshare wave of the future.

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  • http://metaphortravel.com David Ourisman

    Have the clients contest the charge for the flights with their credit card company. Vendor did not provide the service promised and required by law.

  • Robert

    This is a fine example of the result of airline alliances. The only non-stop was KLM (no competition.) There is no incentive onn the airlines’ part to resolve these problems in a reasonable time frame, again becuse of a lackof competition.

    Regulatory authorities ought to impose penalties that will cause airlines to wake up.

    Just as an aside – if a travel agent had messed up with an airline, they would have been Johnny-on-the-spot with a debit memo that would have attracted the travel agent’s attention. When can a passenger or travel agent debit an airline when an airline screws up to attract the airline’s attention? We know who has the upper hand here.

  • James

    There are some companies in the EU which will making a filling against Airline companies based on violation on the EU rules. (One of them has a desk setup in Schiphol). Unfortunately I don’t know the name of the company.

    Alternatively you might try contacting Executive Relations at NWA and see if they give any options.

  • The man who notices things

    C’mon David – be realistic – these tickets were bought and paid for months ago – it is likely too late.

    Personally, who sold the ticket? If it was NW/DL I would sue them in small claims court for the compensation described in the EU rules. Why? Because DL/NW is the AGENT of KLM. They advertised and sold the flight and transferred the money to KLM for that share of the flight.

    Once they file their small claims action – I’ll bet you that someone at KLM will respond fairly promptly.

  • the flip side

    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    I fly Northwest. No problems.

    I fly Air France. No problems.

    I fly KLM. No problems.

    In fact, virtually all the customers on this flight alone had no problems. But there is no mention of that anywhere. Only a blanket slur of these airlines, based on the experience of less than one percent of the passengers on this one flight. The percentage becomes phenomonally tiny if you consider all the flights from that day or that airline. Nothing accurate, nothing informative, just a forum for someone to “get even” for some real or imagined injustice.

    Granted, they were inconvenienced. And in spite of repeatedly referring to their age, they are obviously fit enough to travel half way around the world and aware enough to still make banana jokes. Not exactly a couple on life support. They managed to navigate taxis and shuttles, and spend hours in restaurants, hotels, tourist attractions, etc, but for some reason, they are devastated by an airport in Minneapolis.

    And then to conclude with some ominous prediction about “codeshare wave of the future”. Give me a break! Are codeshares new? Of course not. Are there always going to be inconveniences in every aspect of every person’s life? Absolutely! Is a little frustration with one or two less-competent employees cause to slander the other thousands of competent, caring employees in a given company via a public rant? Hardly. Would YOU want people to automatically refer to you based on the least impressive members of your group or family?

    Just out of curiousity, by the way, I went to the KLM site:

    Entered country and language. Click.

    Clicked on Customer Support link.

    From there, I could quickly select how I wanted to contact them. Took less than 20 seconds.

  • Father Goose

    “the flip side”
    Easy for you to say these things if you are in the 99%. If you become one of the other 1% you will have a different view. I hope you become one of the 1% many times in the near future so that you become enlightened to the plight of the way too many who have to endure this crap. The point of stating that the clients are in their 80′s is that they may not have several years to wait around for the compensation that they were to receive at the airport.

    Get a clue or take a hike, just quit being a jerk. Of course you may have been born that way and can’t help it.

  • Graham

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