Natalee Holloway

Ssssmokin' · 07-15-2005, 09:50 PM

Everyone is talking about Natalee Holloway--the teen that disappeared in Aruba. So what does everyone here think?

My opinion, the kid did it, but will walk. I imagine she is swimming with the fishes! Come on, let's stir this up a bit!

joyceandrews · 07-15-2005, 10:15 PM

Unfortunatley , I agree. Von sDersloott (sp) killed her, but somehow pulled off the"perfect crime". But, I also think the Kalfo (sp) brothers and daddy were heavilly involved.
I am a Certified Aruba Specialist. I still think Aruba is as safe as any destinatiion can be.
We have also have incidents like this in the USA. Several German and etc tourists have been murdered in the Miami Area.

Ssssmokin' · 07-15-2005, 10:26 PM

True--there are probably more murders in NYC in a day than in Aruba in a year, but to be hones, that mother is growing on me and not in a good way. It is sad and unfortunate, but this high class high dollar family sent thier spoiled kid to a foreign country to drink booze for her high school graduation. Apparently they were also planning a European trip after Aruba and before college.

So where do we get off by making a mockery of thier justice system, their investigation, etc. I think thay have done more harm than good, and those Twitty Brothers--what are their names Jug and Bug--they ought to be put back in the barn.

But this will be unresolved, I don't think they will ever find her remains. But as long as there is no other major news story Faux (oops Fox) News will continue to send Greta Van whatever to report on the same old crap day in and day out.

It is sad, but hey that's life. Time to move on folks

jfrenaye · 07-15-2005, 10:34 PM

Yes, I also think she is dead somewhere. It bothers me that it will probably remain unsolved, I would sure like to know how the hell it was pulled off. I suspect that Dad VDS was involved with advice--he seems pretty smart.

joyceandrews · 07-15-2005, 10:52 PM

Yes, The Parents may come off as rich and snotty, but put yourself in their position. If it were my daughter, I would be acting the same way. I happen to be friends with people in her neighborhood and I know what they are going through.

As a Leisure Travel Specialist, I will not ever do as HS Group again. This is really a mess.

I actually did my last HS Group in 1998 when one of them was arrested for trying to buy drugs from an undercover Cop in Cancun. Never again was my motto.

**fraha** · 07-15-2005, 11:00 PM

Does anyone think the abduction to another island theory could be true? I just find it hard to believe that this kid pulled off the perfect crime? I love the scaredmonkeys.com forum, they are all over this story. If the kid did it, even by accident, I think the father & friend cleaned up after him and it is a BIG cover up. Aruba is my favorite island, we really love it there but......I'm not ready to go back too soon.

My heart breaks for her mother & family - no matter how much money they have. Thank God they had the $$$ & contacts to persue it this far. I think if it was me, I would pull out every stop too. We scrimped to send our daughter to Europe with her class after HS graduation. I made her call us every night. You never think this could happen to you.

<_<

vickiburton · 07-18-2005, 11:25 AM

As heartless as I may sound, I, too, think that Natalee is with the fishes. Has been since May 30 or thereabouts. When I was in HS, we thought going to a local theme park was a senior trip. How times have changed.

**fraha** · 07-18-2005, 02:48 PM

Vicki,

I agree! You are from TN & I am from MD - We were lucky enough to go to our local "Gwynn Oak Park" for a few hours & took the local bus..................times have changed!

Frani

summergirl825 · 07-19-2005, 09:53 AM

I think that maybe they had a fight and she was accidently killed.
I have also thought that there was a good possibility that they took her to Venezuela.....
Hard to say, just sad.

***When I was in HS we all looked forward going to Disneyland!!

**jjjenny** · 07-20-2005, 12:30 PM

I think she's dead.
We didn't have even have any senior trips in my town!

07-15-2005, 10:34 PM	#4
jfrenaye Lanoisseforp Levart Super Duper Über Poster Member since: Feb 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD 21403 Age: 51 Posts: 12,001 Rep Power: 362	Yes, I also think she is dead somewhere. It bothers me that it will probably remain unsolved, I would sure like to know how the hell it was pulled off. I suspect that Dad VDS was involved with advice--he seems pretty smart. __________________ Find me on the TRO Forums or MLMs and Travel: A Bad Mix or Single Parent Travel or Eye On Annapolis or ClientBaseHelp.com or even on Twitter!

07-15-2005, 11:00 PM	#6
fraha Supporting Member Silver Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Baltimore Posts: 348 Rep Power: 37	Does anyone think the abduction to another island theory could be true? I just find it hard to believe that this kid pulled off the perfect crime? I love the scaredmonkeys.com forum, they are all over this story. If the kid did it, even by accident, I think the father & friend cleaned up after him and it is a BIG cover up. Aruba is my favorite island, we really love it there but......I'm not ready to go back too soon. My heart breaks for her mother & family - no matter how much money they have. Thank God they had the $$$ & contacts to persue it this far. I think if it was me, I would pull out every stop too. We scrimped to send our daughter to Europe with her class after HS graduation. I made her call us every night. You never think this could happen to you. <_< __________________

07-18-2005, 02:48 PM	#8
fraha Supporting Member Silver Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Baltimore Posts: 348 Rep Power: 37	Vicki, I agree! You are from TN & I am from MD - We were lucky enough to go to our local "Gwynn Oak Park" for a few hours & took the local bus..................times have changed! Frani __________________

07-20-2005, 12:30 PM	#10
jjjenny Supporting Member Diamond Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Louisiana Age: 55 Posts: 2,041 Rep Power: 73	I think she's dead. We didn't have even have any senior trips in my town! __________________ Jeanne, CTC

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07-15-2005, 09:50 PM	#1
Ssssmokin' Banned User Member since: Jul 2005 Location: On the verge of hell Age: 45 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Everyone is talking about Natalee Holloway--the teen that disappeared in Aruba. So what does everyone here think? My opinion, the kid did it, but will walk. I imagine she is swimming with the fishes! Come on, let's stir this up a bit!

07-15-2005, 10:15 PM	#2
joyceandrews Travel Professional Gold Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 787 Rep Power: 41	Unfortunatley , I agree. Von sDersloott (sp) killed her, but somehow pulled off the"perfect crime". But, I also think the Kalfo (sp) brothers and daddy were heavilly involved. I am a Certified Aruba Specialist. I still think Aruba is as safe as any destinatiion can be. We have also have incidents like this in the USA. Several German and etc tourists have been murdered in the Miami Area.

07-15-2005, 10:26 PM	#3
Ssssmokin' Banned User Member since: Jul 2005 Location: On the verge of hell Age: 45 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	True--there are probably more murders in NYC in a day than in Aruba in a year, but to be hones, that mother is growing on me and not in a good way. It is sad and unfortunate, but this high class high dollar family sent thier spoiled kid to a foreign country to drink booze for her high school graduation. Apparently they were also planning a European trip after Aruba and before college. So where do we get off by making a mockery of thier justice system, their investigation, etc. I think thay have done more harm than good, and those Twitty Brothers--what are their names Jug and Bug--they ought to be put back in the barn. But this will be unresolved, I don't think they will ever find her remains. But as long as there is no other major news story Faux (oops Fox) News will continue to send Greta Van whatever to report on the same old crap day in and day out. It is sad, but hey that's life. Time to move on folks

07-15-2005, 10:52 PM	#5
joyceandrews Travel Professional Gold Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 787 Rep Power: 41	Yes, The Parents may come off as rich and snotty, but put yourself in their position. If it were my daughter, I would be acting the same way. I happen to be friends with people in her neighborhood and I know what they are going through. As a Leisure Travel Specialist, I will not ever do as HS Group again. This is really a mess. I actually did my last HS Group in 1998 when one of them was arrested for trying to buy drugs from an undercover Cop in Cancun. Never again was my motto.

07-18-2005, 11:25 AM	#7
vickiburton Official Commentator Bronze Poster Member since: Apr 2005 Location: Chattanooga TN Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	As heartless as I may sound, I, too, think that Natalee is with the fishes. Has been since May 30 or thereabouts. When I was in HS, we thought going to a local theme park was a senior trip. How times have changed.

07-19-2005, 09:53 AM	#9
summergirl825 Travel Professional Silver Poster Member since: Jun 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 443 Rep Power: 34	I think that maybe they had a fight and she was accidently killed. I have also thought that there was a good possibility that they took her to Venezuela..... Hard to say, just sad. ***When I was in HS we all looked forward going to Disneyland!!