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Old 02-01-2010, 06:43 AM   #1
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on the Virtual Turnpike

http://www.vpike.com/

It doesn't usually take you to the precise address, but right nearby. You can then use the arrows to move around until you are right in front of the house you grew up in...

... that's assuming you grew up in a major metropolitan area.

I was able to look at not only where I grew up, but where my cousins did and also where families had lived through the years. Fun!
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Old 02-01-2010, 06:54 AM   #2
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What does this site offer that Google maps doesn't?
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Old 02-01-2010, 08:56 AM   #3
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Did you look at it? I've not found that I can look at a specific house on Google maps. Maybe I'm missing something? With Google maps I can see the plot and the roof, driveway and cars in it etc, but with this I can look at the house as if I'm standing in front of it.
It came to me from a real estate agent and is probably very useful for them.

Here's a shot of 122 E 58th St, in NYC
http://www.vpike.com/?place=122+E.+58th+St%2C+NY%2C+NY
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Did you look at it? I've not found that I can look at a specific house on Google maps. Maybe I'm missing something? With Google maps I can see the plot and the roof, driveway and cars in it etc, but with this I can look at the house as if I'm standing in front of it.
It came to me from a real estate agent and is probably very useful for them.

Here's a shot of 122 E 58th St, in NYC
http://www.vpike.com/?place=122+E.+58th+St%2C+NY%2C+NY
Of course I looked at it! And here is the link for Google maps of 122 E. 58th St. Note that "Street View" is turned on.

If you note, for some reason the Google view is showing the even side of the street and if you rotate the image you will see the library which vpike is showing (and which is actually at #127). So in this case the Google view is more accurate (and I find this strange because vpike is embedding the Google product in their page).
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Wow, I learned something new today! Thanks. I didn't realize you could do that with google maps.
The whole thing is pretty cool.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:21 AM   #6
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This does appear to be Google Maps. Fortunately many of the addresses I entered do not show the house or even a picture since accessing the property would have meant trespassing on private lanes and Google got in trouble for this in the beginning. This is a privacy issue and a law suit, I think but don't know the status, has been brought against Google.

Admittedly I have used it to look up an address from an old city directory to see if a house exists when I work on my genealogy.
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Old 02-01-2010, 10:46 AM   #7
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B., like in Pittsburgh, the courts have consistently ruled against the privacy issues. For example, in the Pittsburgh case, the 3rd Circuit affirmed dismissal of the privacy counts, holding that "no person of ordinary sensibilities would have been offended by the photo."

See: Privacy-Loving Couple Allowed to Pursue Only Trespass Count Against Google Maps.

The courts have upheld the trespassing issue, including the 3rd Circuit court in the Pittsburgh case. As such, if Google wants to take their photos, they must take them from public property, from buildings they have permission to enter, while inflight in helicopters or airplanes, from public waterways, or have permission to enter private property from which they take their photos.

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Admittedly I have used it to look up an address from an old city directory to see if a house exists when I work on my genealogy.
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The courts have upheld the trespassing issue, including the 3rd Circuit court in the Pittsburgh case. As such, if Google wants to take their photos, they must take them from public property, from buildings they have permission to enter, while inflight in helicopters or airplanes, from public waterways, or have permission to enter private property from which they take their photos.
Similarly, in other decisions, courts have upheld the public's right to take photographs of trains, chemical plants, power plants, military bases, and other "sensitive" properties providing the photographer is on public property. On private property, it is up to the discretion of the property owner.

Of course, there are a few exceptions but they are minor.
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:52 AM   #9
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I agree.

That being said, under the old Espionage Act (passed in 1917, but it has been amended) photographs of sensitive properties (read that military bases and other spots such as Oak Ridge, nuclear power plants, for example) can be prohibited, even if taken from "public property" (technically military bases are public property, but that doesn't matter).

According to court rulings, the government can't just say any particular military base can't be photographed, nor can it just ban photos at all bases or all places on all bases. There has to be a reasonable reason for the ban. Photographs of some military bases, and some places on other military bases, have been ruled by the courts as permissible.

There are specific rules which must be followed to have the photos confiscated. If you are detained, the military cannot legally demand your camera or your digital media or film. Of course they can try to demand it, but you are under no obligation to give it to them. Only an officer of the law or court can take it from you, and then only with a court order. And if they try or threaten you? They can be charged with theft or coercion, and you may even have civil recourse.

You can take photos any place that's open to the public, whether or not it's private property. A mall, for example, is open to the public. So are most office buildings (at least the lobbies). You don't need permission; if you have permission to enter, you have permission to shoot.

You can take any photo that does not intrude upon or invade the privacy of a person, if that person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Someone walking in a mall or on the street? Fair game. Someone standing in a corner, looking at their new Prozac prescription? No. Using a long lens to shoot someone in an apartment? No.

Note that the limits have nothing to do with where you are when you take the shots; it's all about the subject's expectation of privacy. You can be on private property (a mall or office-building lobby), and still legally take pictures.

That being said, there is a difference in taking photos and publishing them. The rules for publishing are complicated and since we've only been talking about taking the photos, I'll not discuss publishing them.

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Of course, there are a few exceptions but they are minor.
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Old 02-06-2010, 11:58 PM   #10
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I don't have anything to worry about. Probably. No one will ever be interested in taking photos of where I grew up in the middle of nowhere. One of the advantages - everyone knows your business...unless it's Google maps.
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