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john225
12-05-2005, 07:17 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051205/ap_on_...oke_free_hotels (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051205/ap_on_he_me/smoke_free_hotels)

Also, interesting information: http://www.smoke-freehotels.com/

nobody122
12-06-2005, 05:57 AM
Finally. I wish more places would go smoke-free. Ever get stuck in a smoking room on a long trip? The money in cleaning costs to clean your clothes starts making the 5-star resort down the road look cheap.

Now if more would follow Westin (especially in Europe and especially Marriott).

tdew
12-06-2005, 06:42 AM
I disagree. I don't smoke but there are many people who do. I know some of them and actually LIKE them. There should be a way to provide for everyone.
This isn't it.
My choice will be to NOT stay at any Westin hotels or any other that go this way.

hwyman
12-06-2005, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by tdew@Dec 6 2005, 08:42 AM
I disagree.* I don't smoke but there are many people who do.* I know some of them and actually LIKE them. There should be a way to provide for everyone.*
This isn't it.
My choice will be to NOT stay at any Westin hotels or any other that go this way.
14969


I gave it up years ago, but I also disagree with this policy. Travel has become very difficult for a smoker, since most airports no longer have smoking lounges, most rental cars are non-smoking, now Westins are nonsmoking?

AaronK
12-06-2005, 09:23 AM
I have to agree.

I don't smoke and after having the "pleasure" of having to stay in a smoking room due to availability, always prefer a nonsmoking room.

However, if someone chooses to smoke, they should have the right to do so in private in their hotel room.

Ned
12-06-2005, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by tdew@Dec 6 2005, 08:42 AM
I disagree.* I don't smoke but there are many people who do.* I know some of them and actually LIKE them. There should be a way to provide for everyone.*
This isn't it.
My choice will be to NOT stay at any Westin hotels or any other that go this way.
14969

I disagree with you, completely. Being around smokers is unhealthy and expensive. Second hand smoke has never done any lung any good. Being in an enclosed area with a smoker causes me to have to get my clothes cleaned immediately after being with them. Plus with my allegies, I really can't be with people smoking before it hurts me a great deal, and why should smokers dictate where I can and can not be.

Why should smokers force me away from a particular hotel or not allow me to use the pool. Smoking is an optional habit. Smokers don't have to smoke anywhere they please. Let them go outside, but not at any entrance. I'm tired at having to "run the gauntlet" every time I want to enter an office building or other "smoke free" building.

It's time smokers got the word. Smoking is unhealthful, stupid (whether that's offensive to smokers or not, it's still true) and unfair to the rest of us. Smoking also costs society as a whole way too much in cash and in human loss. It's the human loss I just don't understand. Why do all these people deny they're slowly committing suicide? My mother was one of them. There is no doubt that while she died of an aneurysm, she wouldn't have died of it if she hadn't smoked.

Since smokers substantially negatively affect non-smokers, and since non-smokers, through their decision not to smoke, don't negatively affect smokers, the answer is clear, it is completely backwards to think that non-smokers need to accomodate smokers, by either not smoking at all, or finding the good old outdoors to smoke, far away from the rest of us.

Jason's Storm
12-06-2005, 10:35 AM
I agree with Ned. Ever go into a hotel room and the first thing you smell is the overwheling smell of cig smoke? I have, and also felt like puking. This room wasn't even a smoking room. Smokers should be more considerate to non-smokers, be cause the worst we leave in a cleaned room is bedbugs.;) So summing up smoke smelling rooms are few less desirable than non-smoke smelling rooms, so it makes sense for Westin.

~JS

Eileen Sellers
12-06-2005, 10:36 AM
I'm glad to see a hotel trying it. I don't think it will hurt them, or help them as far as increasing business. It will certainly lower their cleaning and upkeep bills.

Jeanie821
12-06-2005, 11:22 AM
It's good to know that there's at least one smoke-free hotel chain. I have severe allergies (year-round to boot), and my long list of allergens includes tobacco.

susanliber
12-06-2005, 01:38 PM
The first thing I did was check to see if they have a hotel in Las Vegas. The unending cigarette smoke is what I hated about Vegas. They do have a hotel there.....and the Aladdin is also some kind of affiliate with Starwood (?) resorts. But do they have a casino and will that be smoke free? I doubt it. I stayed at the Orleans last year and we did stay on a smoke free floor but you the lobby for the hotel was right in the casino so you had to walk all through the smoke before you even got to your room. (and this was the week before Christmas and there were kids and teens all over the place!)

Ned
12-06-2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by susanliber@Dec 6 2005, 03:38 PM
The first thing I did was check to see if they have a hotel in Las Vegas.* The unending cigarette smoke is what I hated about Vegas.* They do have a hotel there.....and the Aladdin is also some kind of affiliate with Starwood (?) resorts.* But do they have a casino and will that be smoke free?* I doubt it.* I stayed at the Orleans last year and we did stay on a smoke free floor but you the lobby for the hotel was right in the casino so you had to walk all through the smoke before you even got to your room.* (and this was the week before Christmas and there were kids and teens all over the place!)
15045

Nice to see you in print again Susan.

I spoke to Starwood this evening. The Aladdin is a Sheraton Hotel and as such it does not fall under the smoking policy of Westin.

The Las Vegas Westin has its own casino. While the hotel, apparently, will be non-smoking, the same will not be true of the casino according to the woman with whom I spoke. They will have a non-smoking room or area of the casino, but they will also have smoking areas of the casino too. So much for "smoke free" Westins. To me it's like being pregnant. You are or you're not. If you say you're "smoke-free", but you're not entirely, you can't claim you're "smoke free".

susanliber
12-06-2005, 08:43 PM
I have been busy....I should write a report of my recent trip to St Maarten - got back 11/18...then I have been working. I go home tomorrow and have to bake cookies for 2 days then going to Newport for my birthday.

But I will try to do the reporting on St Maartin tomorrow when I get home. It was interesting for sure!!

BPoland
12-07-2005, 05:34 AM
Happy Birthday (in a couple of days), Susan! :)

Ned
12-07-2005, 06:44 AM
Susan, I'd like to add my birthday greetings too.

susanliber
12-07-2005, 07:07 AM
Thanks....it is a BIG one this year....LOL but I am coping. The weirdest thing is my husband will be starting on Social Security.....and I cannot believe I am old enough to be married to such an old fart!!