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Ned
08-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Here's Beck's latest Obama conspiracy theory. It's quite amazing.

He's telling the world that the Obama Administration is secretly trying to turn your computer into a surveillance tool, to spy on you and other Americans, by inducing you to trade in your old car.

In a five-minute segment broadcast last Friday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWs12ccbOiE), Beck "uncovers" some "frightening language" on the Cars.gov "cash for clunkers" site. The site has been set up by US DOT for people who want to claim a tax rebate when they trade in their old gas guzzler for a fuel-efficient model. It's also for dealers so they can get reimbursed the cost of the rebate by US DOT.

Beck points to the following passage which pops up on your screen when you log into the system to apply for the rebate.

"This application provides access to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a Federal computer system and is the property of the United States Government. It is for authorized use only. Users (authorized or unauthorized) have no explicit or implicit expectation of privacy.

Any or all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT, and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign. By using this system, the user consents to such interception, monitoring, recording, copying, auditing, inspection, and disclosure at the discretion CARS or the DoT personnel.

Unauthorized or improper use of this system may result in administrative disciplinary action and civil and criminal penalties."

According to Beck and his security "experts," this means anyone who uses Cars.gov to buy or sell a car will have their PCs taken over by Uncle Sam, in perpetuity. "FoxBabe" Kimberly Guilfoyle, another member of Beck's "looneytunes" parade of good looking women without brains agrees with him. No kidding. :p

Of course there are just a few problems with Beck's story.


The statement only applies to the car dealers participating in the program, not consumers doing the paperwork so the dealer can get reimbursed.
Beck and company neatly forgot the phrase "when logged on to the CARS system" in their diatribe. So when car dealers are connected to the federal government's computer network, so they can get reimbursed by US DOT, the feds say they're part of their network. When they log off, they're not part of the network. I guess that concept is just too difficult for Beck. It's the same as being logged into any corporate network. When you're on, you've got to play nice and follow the network's rules.
The disclaimer rules statement, save for only 2 proper nouns, is the same one which has been used on federal websites since at least 2001, and probably much earlier. I think "W" was president then. Could it be that Beck is really complaining that his hero George was already planning to take over everyone's computer, including Beck's to spy on us? George wouldn't spy on his friend Glenn, would he?

I guess Beck can't help himself. It's just his usual fear-mongering, and grasping at any straws to generate controversy and ratings.

Near the end of the segment Beck says, "These are evil people... wicked, crazy, frightening people."

As the excellent columnist Robert X. Cringely says about Beck, "I think he's right. But only when watching himself in the monitor." ;)

jfrenaye
08-03-2009, 02:17 PM
If the wording is correct, it is a pretty scary warning, and I likely would X out of it immediately.

icymrot
08-03-2009, 03:57 PM
John I agree that the language is harsh and it will scare many people but there needs to start being some sort of Out of Context police to monitor these guys on both sides. It's become way to easy to take pieces of quotes and stuff like this and spin it into your own propaganda. This type of stuff has gone on forever but in today's 24 hour news cycle, YouTube, Facebook, etc the real news gets lost in all the crap.

Kairho
08-03-2009, 04:26 PM
...there needs to start being some sort of Out of Context police to monitor these guys on both sides...
There is. My favorite is PolitiFact, from the St. Petersburg Times (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/).

Ned
08-03-2009, 04:40 PM
That's a good one K. I also like factcheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/).

There is. My favorite is PolitiFact, from the St. Petersburg Times (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/).

Kairho
08-03-2009, 05:24 PM
That's a good one K. I also like factcheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/).
And several others, too, out there. However, I particularly like the ratings on PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/), especially Pants on Fire.

Plus Bill Adair, their Washington Bureau Chief who sorts of runs PolitiFact is a hoot when he's on the talking heads shows.

Kairho
08-03-2009, 06:19 PM
This silly issue has made it to PolitiFact:

On Glenn Beck's Fox News program, Guilfoyle claims government's Cash for Clunkers Web site would give government complete access to your home computer (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/03/kimbery-guilfoyle/glenn-beck-claims-governments-cash-clunkers-web-si/)
http://www.tampabay.com/universal/politifact/rulings/tom-false.gif

icymrot
08-04-2009, 08:33 AM
There is. My favorite is PolitiFact, from the St. Petersburg Times (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/).

K, thanks I'm not familiar with that one but do check up on the one Ned mentioned however I'm guessing the majority in this country don't and thats the problem. The "mob" believes what they hear on tv instead of doing the research themselves.

pezmanffx
08-04-2009, 09:06 AM
Arent these the same people who say that changes in health care will kill old people and are involved in that "birthers" stuff?



As someone who works for a company that builds custom web based applications for the government, I can tell you that they are not doing anything to your computer. Even their cookies expire within 24 hours. The warnings are a lame attempt at scaring away hackers and terrorists.