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jfrenaye
08-25-2007, 05:40 PM
OK, I know there is pressure and all, but this is just too funny

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weblet
08-25-2007, 05:44 PM
It's a very sad commentary on our educational system...

Ned
08-25-2007, 06:16 PM
More than said, I think Ann, it's an indictment. I'm still shaking my head.

It's a very sad commentary on our educational system...

tdew
08-25-2007, 06:26 PM
huh? Did she say some people don't have maps?
That would probably explain it..... :mellow:

weblet
08-25-2007, 06:34 PM
It's true. I sometimes wonder how we can have such world-renown colleges and universities, and yet our public education system is spitting out kids who can't read or put together an understandable sentence.

Ned
08-25-2007, 06:48 PM
Yes, you're right.

It also is creating a caste system. When our kids were growing up we really wanted to put them in the public school system. We support the concept of public education.

Unfortunately, we just couldn't do that to them. The public schools here are so poor. We sent them to private school from 4 year old kindergarten through 12th grade. As a result, they got a fabulous education, and both went on to graduate from top colleges with honors, and now both are very successful adults, in their chosen fields.

But it was all dependent on that private school education that everyone just can't get, mostly because the slots for kids, aren't numerous. There are lots of scholarships available, but few places.

It's true. I sometimes wonder how we can have such world-renown colleges and universities, and yet our public education system is spitting out kids who can't read or put together an understandable sentence.

jfrenaye
08-25-2007, 07:03 PM
Here is the transcript. The video might make her look even smarter when you read this. This contest was last night (8/24/07)

Q: Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans canít locate the U.S. on a world map. Why do you think this is?


A: I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uhmmm, some people out there in our nation donít have maps and uh, I believe that our, I, education like such as uh, South Africa, and uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uhhh, our education over here in the US should help the US, uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.

By the way, she finished in 4th place as the 3rd runner up.

stephen_s
08-25-2007, 09:54 PM
You know she didn't even answer the question. She just went off on a tangent.

jfrenaye
08-26-2007, 07:55 AM
Sure she did. It was because some US Americans don;t have maps!

Kairho
08-26-2007, 08:04 AM
I see an opportunity for more MLM Maps out there.....

Ned
08-26-2007, 08:16 AM
She didn't go on a tangent. She didn't go anywhere. It was complete nonsense. I guarantee she couldn't locate the US on a map either.

You know she didn't even answer the question. She just went off on a tangent.

weblet
08-26-2007, 08:17 AM
I see an opportunity for more MLM Maps out there.....
Oh heavens! Rand-McNally look out!

On the other hand, maybe it is possible to take the bus to Hawaii. We just haven't been shown The Way yet....

jfrenaye
08-26-2007, 08:57 AM
Reminds me of this commercial

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tdew
08-26-2007, 08:58 AM
At one time, when we were going to take a trip to England, one of my daughter's friends wanted to know whether we were going to fly or drive...
They were young at the time though, so it wasn't as bad as it might have been.

Kairho
08-26-2007, 09:03 AM
Interestingly, I've successfully used this situation (at least twice) to loosen up a stuffed-shirt know-it-all caller and get them to listen to what I had to say.

In both cases, Mr/Ms SS said something about how they couldn't understand why (1) there was no flight between two close cities, or (2) why the only flight was a 9 PM, or, (3) some similar situation which us Africa specialists know all too well. My response was, "Hmmmm ... I agree with you. After all, they are only 2 inches apart on my map here."

They were sharp people so immediately know what was being said and turned into *****cats for the rest of the process (and sale!).

Ned
08-26-2007, 09:55 AM
What a terrific way to handle the situation. Very well done K.

Interestingly, I've successfully used this situation (at least twice) to loosen up a stuffed-shirt know-it-all caller and get them to listen to what I had to say.

In both cases, Mr/Ms SS said something about how they couldn't understand why (1) there was no flight between two close cities, or (2) why the only flight was a 9 PM, or, (3) some similar situation which us Africa specialists know all too well. My response was, "Hmmmm ... I agree with you. After all, they are only 2 inches apart on my map here."

They were sharp people so immediately know what was being said and turned into *****cats for the rest of the process (and sale!).

Appleseed
08-26-2007, 01:50 PM
This girl was born for Hollywood. I have a suspicion that the director-types will be ringing her phone off the hook, prolonging her 15-minutes of fame a bit.

This truly is a very sad commentary for the state of public education (or lack or it) in this country. It really is scary when you think about it.

I do have to admit though, with the sound off, she sure is hot!!!

candyharrington
08-26-2007, 02:14 PM
Well I get a lot of reader questions and some of them make me scratch my head.

One guy wrote in and asked about wheelcahir-access on Amrtrak and I told him it depended on the route and asked if he has a specific route in mind. No lie, he said he wanted to go from Los Angeles to Hawaii on the train. I reminded him that Hawaii was an island and he said, "Oh does that mean I'll have to change trains?" I gave up. I just told him that Amtrak didn't serve Hawaii.

Don't even asked about the lady that wanted to bury her dead frozen cat at Stonhenge.

Candy

weblet
08-26-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm beginning to think the train to Hawaii question is the 'Do you have Prince Albert in a can?' travel version....

Stonehenge, eh? I don't think my mom has thought of spreading Jelly Bean and Buddy there yet... and at least they are ashes at this point.

Ned
08-26-2007, 06:34 PM
I know a number of people who have scattered the ashes of loved ones at the base of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.

I think you're right about your Prince Albert conclusion Ann.

Annette
08-27-2007, 11:19 PM
After finally reviewing the tape I've come to the conclusion that a) she's stupid, b) she was coached on how to try and phrase her answers so that they had to do with world peace and helping other, less fortunate countries, and c) she's stupid.

She started out on topic, and then somehow her brain got confused between America and South Africa. Imagine 20% of South Africans not being able to find the US on a map, how terrible! They probably don't own maps, the poor dears. Of course we need to send international aid straight away to help these poor geography-deprived children right away.

Someone send the girl a map ASAP! Make sure the states are spelled out in phonics for her. (I remember my aunt having an argument with someone who insisted Phoenix was pronounced "Pa-hoe-nicks").

And some kind soul online made a nice map for Miss South Carolina:


http://www.morningtoast.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads//missmap.gif

Appleseed
08-28-2007, 07:44 AM
Hilarious!!!

wrp96
08-28-2007, 08:57 AM
I'm beginning to think the train to Hawaii question is the 'Do you have Prince Albert in a can?' travel version....


Oh, I can believe it's a true question.

When I moved to Arkansas from Alaska I was asked variations on the following questions:

1. Can I see your passport?

2. How was customs?

3. How do you like living in America?

4. Do you speak English? (This one was my personal favorite).

And then there were the people who couldn't understand why Alaska was so cold since it was south of California - you know right next to Hawaii on the map.

M152Sabrina
08-28-2007, 12:19 PM
Haha... my best friends (bless her blonde soul) thought it was an island. I have to say I lost a little bit of respect that day but then again this is the same girl who thought you could drive island to island in Hawaii.

weblet
08-28-2007, 09:02 PM
Some of the questions that are asked of the foreign exchange students by the kids at the high school are doozies - last year our German daughter was asked if they speak German in Germany.... :eek:

Ned
08-28-2007, 09:14 PM
That makes me think of the hilarious quote, attributed to then Vice President Dan Quayle, "I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn't study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people."

He actually didn't say it. Representative Claudine Schneider (R) of Rhode Island said Quayle said it at a Republican gathering as a joke, and it got picked up as a true statement, until much later when Rep. Schneider admitted she made it up. It certainly does say something, however, that people so readily believed the story.

Some of the questions that are asked of the foreign exchange students by the kids at the high school are doozies - last year our German daughter was asked if they speak German in Germany.... :eek:

CruiseExpert
08-28-2007, 09:25 PM
I do have to admit though, with the sound off, she sure is hot!!!
Too True. Apple, what other shows are you watching with the sound off?

Ned
08-29-2007, 06:20 AM
There's nothing hot about an idiot.

cole75
08-29-2007, 08:10 AM
There's nothing hot about an idiot.

Tell us how you really feel Ned..;)

M152Sabrina
08-29-2007, 08:20 AM
Separate corners people! Tensions are getting high *snickers*

cole75
08-29-2007, 08:33 AM
I'm giggling in my corner...

jfrenaye
08-29-2007, 08:44 AM
OK< John steps to the plate to take up that fight!

cole75
08-29-2007, 09:00 AM
Who's fighting? I totally agree with Ned that Stupidity is not hot..

but ok.. if John's stepping up to the plate... take your best shot!:p

Kairho
08-29-2007, 09:06 AM
Kairho valiantly defends her by placing her on the ground and gently shielding her from harm with his own body. As the vicious shrapnel falls, they.....

Ned
08-29-2007, 09:09 AM
John doesn't count. He thinks Paris what's her name is hot. :lol:

Who's fighting? I totally agree with Ned that Stupidity is not hot..

but ok.. if John's stepping up to the plate... take your best shot!:p

M152Sabrina
08-29-2007, 09:30 AM
Cole I thought Ned was saying your avatar was stupid, evidently I am losing my mind today!

I need rehab in Utah too now.

cole75
08-29-2007, 09:38 AM
Cole I thought Ned was saying your avatar was stupid, evidently I am losing my mind today!

I need rehab in Utah too now.

Ohhhh, that would have been fighting words fur sure..

tdew
08-29-2007, 10:12 AM
Nicole, I have to say that your avatar creates some funny moments.
We look at it as if THAT is the person speaking... the giggling remarks make me giggle...

DFWIC
08-29-2007, 10:30 AM
I saw the replay on Oberman last night -- what a nightmare -- then they replayed her 2nd chance response from the Today Show interview -- I'm shocked she could have memorized such an eloquent answer so quickly.

Such a sad state of affairs - our education system. Too bad we can't pump the $3Billion in money we spend per week in Iraq into our schools and infastructure.....but wait that'd make sense -- never mind.

Kairho
08-29-2007, 11:38 AM
I see no reason why we need to drop this subject yet (as if we had!).

Kicking her while she's down. (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16914127)

jfrenaye
08-29-2007, 12:21 PM
I see no reason why we need to drop this subject yet (as if we had!).

Kicking her while she's down. (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16914127)

That was hysterical.

Now onto rehab in Utah---another hottie LL...

stephen_s
08-29-2007, 12:27 PM
I see no reason why we need to drop this subject yet (as if we had!).

Kicking her while she's down. (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=16914127)

I agree with John. That was totally hilarious! I gave you a rep for that one.

Kairho
08-29-2007, 02:22 PM
Way, way off topic here so the avatar posts are now over here (http://www.tripso.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16109).

jfrenaye
08-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Thank you for keeping us in line moderator dude

candyharrington
08-29-2007, 07:48 PM
Oh no I can assure you the Hawaii/Amtrack post was not a "Prince Albert in a can". I can tell those. And I have to also remind folks that I'm not a TA (i'm an author/editor) -- people don't call me to book trips or tours, they call me for information. So it's not like the "is your refrigerator running" line.

Anyway it's all very sad.

As for stonehenge -- here's that incident (below). I t happend 10 or so years ago and I didn't want to write about so a friend who did a column for a TA mag include the incident (no names mentioned) in her column. At this point in time, I don't care about my confidentiality.

.....

The call started out somewhat normal -- the caller said she read the article about us in the New York Times and she was planning to travel to London. She then asked if there would be any problems bringing her cat with her. OK -- I decided I wanted to get the full story, because I couldn't figure out why she was calling me with this question. So I said, "Are you disabled". "No", she replied. I asked "Well are you traveling with somebody who is disabled?" She said "No", and then paused a bit before adding "Well, there's my cat. But he is Dead". Well, I told her that she would have to check with British customs and immigration in advance. I told here that they could give her the current rules and regulations regarding bringing dead animals into the country.

Now, she really got my curiosity going there. I read the article in the Times and there was not one word about us being a good resource for information on the international transport of dead animals. So, I asked her, "You realize that we are a magazine focusing on accessible travel -- travel for people who have a disability, right". She said "Yes". So I asked, "Well, then what made you think we would be able to answer the question about transporting your dead cat?" She replied. "Well, I figured that since you work with disabled travel, then you would have some experience with service animals. Don't people ever ask you questions about travel with their service animals ?" "Yes", I relented, "but they usually are alive". She just said, "Oh, yeah I guess so".

She then continued and told me about her cat. He was in the freezer, of course wrapped in foil. How did I think she should pack him for transport? Should then told me that since he was frozen stiff, he would no longer fit into the cat carrier. Just when I thought I had heard it all, she chimed in with "I want to bury him at Stonehenge. Do you think that will be a problem?" (No problem, lady -- they sell shovels at the gift shop!!) I realized at this point that I needed to end this call -- no matter how curious I was about this gal, I simply did not want to know any more. "Well, I gotta run," I said, "the other line is ringing. Thank you for calling and have a nice trip."


And how was your Monday???



Candy