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jnejman
07-23-2005, 10:55 AM
I wa :huh: s lucky enough to get upgraded to First Class on a Continental flight from Cleveland to Newark. It was a 7:45 am flight so I assumed I would get breakfast on the plane. Boy, was I wrong! I did receive a beverage before I boarded the plane, also a beverage in a GLASS (not plastic cup) during the flight, but noone on the plane received peanuts or pretzels. What happened to the motto of "serving meals at mealtime"? Turbulence was not a problem and it was a relatively open flight with regards to seating. I'm just wondering why anyone would PAY for this privledge? The extra room in the seat was greatly appreciated, but the lack of food was extremely disappointing. Was I just in First Class on the wrong day?

jjjenny
07-23-2005, 11:19 AM
I think you've seen just how much the airlines have cut back.

CDG
07-23-2005, 11:30 AM
You really see the difference on International flights. Post 9/11 most major airlines aren't offering much in the way of food unless its a fairly long flight (over 4 hours).
CO has a decent Biz Class product on International flights.

jfrenaye
07-23-2005, 12:09 PM
Also, very few people pay for a first or business class seat. THey either are paying full coach with a guaranteed upgrade, or are of such a status that their points get them upgraded.

When I was a kid I seem to recall that first class seemed to be much bigger (more people) than it is now. A lot of cabins now only have 8 seats in first class.

IslandJacks
07-24-2005, 12:40 PM
Seven years ago (!) my kids were age 11 and 13. They were flying out to see their Grandpa in Missouri on USAir. Since my daughter was over 12, the airlines did not require an escort. Both of my kids were frequent flyers so I wasn't worried. As luck would have it, their connecting flight was" canceled due to mechanical problems. My daughter informed the agent that she was aware of Rule 240 and that they owed her vouchers to call her parents and grandparents, food for her and her brother, and to be placed on the next available flight. My daughter had already checked out the monitors and told the agent which flight was next. The agent must have been impressed (my daughter has been formidable since birth!) and she upgraded the kid's to First
Class and gave them the vouchers for the phone and food. When they finally arrived at their destination, my kids called and said, " Mom, do you really charge people more money for First Class than Coach? Tell them not to bother ... it was not worth it!" My daughter said the food was terrible and the real china and stemware did not make up for the taste. The other passengers were "snooty" and rude to the flight attendants. If you can't impress an 11 and 13 year old ... how good can it be?!? And that was SEVEN years ago!

Jaybee727
07-25-2005, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by jnejman@Jul 23 2005, 11:55 AM
I wa :huh: s lucky enough to get upgraded to First Class on a Continental flight from Cleveland to Newark. It was a 7:45 am flight so I assumed I would get breakfast on the plane. Boy, was I wrong! I did receive a beverage before I boarded the plane, also a beverage in a GLASS (not plastic cup) during the flight, but noone on the plane received peanuts or pretzels. What happened to the motto of "serving meals at mealtime"? Turbulence was not a problem and it was a relatively open flight with regards to seating. I'm just wondering why anyone would PAY for this privledge? The extra room in the seat was greatly appreciated, but the lack of food was extremely disappointing. Was I just in First Class on the wrong day?
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There's not a lot of time between Cleveland and Newark to get the kind of perks you were looking for. Most of the time the folks in those short flight first class seats are actually frequent flier members who used miles to upgrade since the short flight time and lack of good perks makes the high cost of first class a poor investment. Continental does shine however in it's international Business First service to Europe and Asia. This is true luxury treatment and for those who can afford it, a memorable experience.

photog72
07-25-2005, 04:06 PM
You think First is bad on Continental (domestic), try your hand at US Airways FC (domestic) and you'll be wishing you were back on Continental.

Jeanie821
09-16-2005, 11:49 AM
What is there? Legroom. Nothing else unless you're flying international.

And at my height, legroom doesn't really matter.

missalf
09-16-2005, 12:09 PM
In short, over a five hour flight first class is wonderful; less than that, other than the wider seat/more legroom, you're not going to see a marked difference.

candyharrington
09-16-2005, 10:57 PM
So IslandJacks, I'm just curious, what is your daughter doing today?? Thinking of law school? Maybe politics? sounds like a great kid.

Yep FC ain't what it used to be (on domestic flights), but if you like the legroom go for it. Eat elsewhere. I've never flown for the food, so it doens't really bother me

:)

Candy

REDJIM
09-17-2005, 02:28 AM
DW and I were upgraded to First Class on Northwest, Labor Day weekend, 2004 on our flight from DTW to MSY. I didn't ask for the upgrade, it was a thoughtful "gift" from a gate agent that must have been having a good morning.

In flight service was exemplary. The breakfast was a plus.

Sometimes everything just goes right for the airlines and their passengers.

bluefin
09-18-2005, 12:04 AM
thats how it goes
well as the prices have become very competitive the planes now cut back on extra perks
in our country on low cost airlies you have to buy food if you want any

Gigs
09-19-2005, 07:27 AM
I remember reading an article last month that said airlines are selling first class seats cheaper than coach seats. I don't understand the reasoning, but I have seen it on several carriers now.

Jerry Doyle
09-19-2005, 08:18 AM
<_< Where have you been my friend? Meal Service on short duration flights of less than 3-4 hours were cut out long ago in the first class cabin. I'm a frequent flyer who can get upgraded most anytime and I now find that more leg room exists in most "exit row" seats than seats in the first class cabin, depending on the size of the air craft. So, I now usually go for the exit row seat, because of the lack of amenities in the first class cabins.

Jerry D

Originally posted by jnejman@Jul 23 2005, 10:55 AM
I wa :huh: s lucky enough to get upgraded to First Class on a Continental flight from Cleveland to Newark. It was a 7:45 am flight so I assumed I would get breakfast on the plane. Boy, was I wrong! I did receive a beverage before I boarded the plane, also a beverage in a GLASS (not plastic cup) during the flight, but noone on the plane received peanuts or pretzels. What happened to the motto of "serving meals at mealtime"? Turbulence was not a problem and it was a relatively open flight with regards to seating. I'm just wondering why anyone would PAY for this privledge? The extra room in the seat was greatly appreciated, but the lack of food was extremely disappointing. Was I just in First Class on the wrong day?
5270

DCTravelAgent
09-19-2005, 08:24 AM
It's all about the seats and nothing else.

Love2snorkel
09-19-2005, 10:50 AM
I was upgraded on USAir from BWI to SFO and the food in FC was horrible. The leather seats were comfy though.

I was upgraded on CO from CUN to IAH and the food was awesome. I was also upgraded R/T from MSY to SAN on CO and was treated wonderfully. It's been a LONG TIME since my F/C experiences on CO so I'm sure the service has changed since....

I do agree that the leg room in the exit rows are great in coach o if you are flying less than 4 hours why upgrade? :blink:

Tommie Imbernino
09-19-2005, 10:51 AM
First class domestic has change considerably. Even requesting a vegetarian dish is difficult but I have been First Class and I have been coach and First is still better, even without a meal.

purpleeagl
09-19-2005, 12:03 PM
Depending on the airline and how they calculate their meal times. You may or may not get a bagel on a morning flight in FC. I have seen both good an bad.

I recently travelled on AA from BWI to DFW and got a nice omlette and fruit. The back could buy the snack box or meal box. At least they offer some food on the plane.

Ned
09-27-2005, 08:15 AM
One of the perks I really used on US Air FC was the power outlet. Recently I read in the Wall Street Journal that they're taking the outlets out. US Air said it's too expensive maintaining the outlets. I wrote to US Air through their web site complaining about this, saying it was one of the few perks left, and asked for a reply. Of course, a couple of weeks later I still have not received a reply.

lightshow
09-27-2005, 10:37 AM
Having perused this thread I noted _no-one_ mentioned the free BOOZE. What's not to like? ° ° °

The "front cabin" is the only way to go: buy a cheap coach seat and upgrade for 20000
miles and enjoy. Why not do it today? ;)

Ned
09-27-2005, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by lightshow@Sep 27 2005, 11:37 AM
Having perused this thread I noted _no-one_ mentioned the free BOOZE. What's not to like? ° ° °

The "front cabin" is the only way to go: buy a cheap coach seat and upgrade for 20000
miles and enjoy. Why not do it today?* ;)
10100

Frankly the free booze doesn't interest me, but I do like being able to get something to drink during the entire flight, not just once as with economy.

US Air, with the merger, jumped the points purchase price of an economy seat by 5,000 points to 25,000 points. I called them up to find out if they also jumped up the points for an upgrade to First Class. The woman I spoke to said they didn't, and that it will remain at 20,000 points, however, she wasn't too sharp and I'm not sure her answer is correct. The upgrade points needed is not yet posted on their web site, or at least I can't find it to confirm her answer. Have any of the US Air dividend miles users at Tripso, confirmed or not, that the upgrade points price will remain at 20,000?

bakerman2033
09-28-2005, 06:13 AM
My fondest memory is a trip on Northwest Airlins from Boston to Denver. My itinerary included a plane change in Minneapolis. This trip occurred the day before Thanksgiving and departed Boston
late afternoon. You would have thought it a holiday travel nigtmare. Nope! In Minneapolis, I approached the Agent as the gate to make sure I was properly checked in, whereby she took my ticket/info, looked in the computer, typed a few things and handed it back to me. I told her when I noticed the seat had been changed, that I had already reserved one. With a smile, she said 'you'll like this one much better". I boarded the aircraft and lo and behold I was in Seat 3A in first class. The Flight Attendant brought me some orange juice, some other small snack, and shortly therafter a young woman took the seat across the aisle one row back. She had a strange look of
amazement on her face. It wasn't long before the 3 flight attendants in first class prepared for departure, and we then our flight took off. I had to use the restroom, I opened the curtain to go to the back of the aircraft, and stopped in my tracks. Their wasn't anyone else on the plane! This plane had 9 seats across in each row, it was a big one! ... I felt like I was on one of those disaster movies where the plane disappears or something. On board were a total of 9 crewmembers and me and the young lady. I received so much attention during that flight that I immediatly became spoiled. The flight we were on was "deadheading" it for use the next day. Years have passed and a good friend of mine is a million mile member of United, now whenever or wherever I want to go it doesn't cost me anything... I usually fly coach, it doesn't make sense to fly First Class for the short round about trips I take. I'm with everyone else who realizes the value of using First Class for International flights. 9 hours to Athens was a bit much for me in coach way back before my million dollar buddy appeared on the scene!

Len
09-28-2005, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by lightshow@Sep 27 2005, 10:37 AM
Having perused this thread I noted _no-one_ mentioned the free BOOZE. What's not to like? ° ° °

The "front cabin" is the only way to go: buy a cheap coach seat and upgrade for 20000
miles and enjoy. Why not do it today?* ;)
10100


I couldn't agree more. More leg room, first to board and deplane, plus free wine, booze, or beer. Worth the upgrade for me.

rampo
09-29-2005, 11:12 AM
On some international flights, you get this in first class:
Cathay Pacific First Class Food (http://www.airlinemeals.net/meals/CathayPacific551600.htm)
Cathay Pacific First Class Seat (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=070152&WxsIERv=Obrvat%20747-467&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Pngunl%20Cnpvsvp%20Nvejnlf&QtODMg=Flqarl%20-%20Xvatfsbeq%20Fzvgu%20Vagreangvbany%20%28Znfpbg%2 9%20%28FLQ%20%2F%20LFFL%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgenyvn%20-%20Arj%20Fbhgu%20Jnyrf&ktODMp=Sroehnel%2029%2C%202000&BP=1&WNEb25u=Penvt%20Zheenl&xsIERvdWdsY=O-UHO&MgTUQtODMgKE=Qry%2010%2F92.%20Frng%202N%20bs%20gur %20Svefg%20Pynff%20pnova.%20Guvf%20vf%20gur%20arj% 20Svefg%20Pynff%20pnova%20pheeragyl%20orvat%20svgg rq%20gb%20gur%20ragver%20PK%20747%20syrrg.%20Gb%20 zr%20gung%20ybbxf%20yvxr%20bar%20irel%20pbzsbegnoy r%20orq%20gung%20jbhyq%20znxr%20n%2014ue%20syvtug% 20cher%20urnira%21&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=9077&NEb25uZWxs=2000-03-02%2000%3A00%3A00&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=25873%2F937&static=yes&width=485&height=740&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2C cynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencu re%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2C pbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22pngunl%22%20%2B%22 747%22%20%2B%22svefg%22%20%2B%22pynff%22%27%20VA%2 0OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%2 0QRFP&photo_nr=4&prev_id=070153&next_id=070151)

drwong
10-03-2005, 02:45 PM
And speaking of Cathay Pacific, today's WashPost listed the dining differences on a recent TransPac flight:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...0201062_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/02/AR2005100201062_pf.html)

rampo
10-05-2005, 10:37 AM
Japan Airline's first class ain't too shabby either ...
JAL Skysleeper Solo Seat (http://www.jal.co.jp/en/inflight/3classes/first/seat/)
JAL First Class Meal (http://www.airlinemeals.net/meals/JapanAirlines101120.html)