What was Travel Weekly thinking when it called YTB a power player?

by Ned Levi on December 1, 2008

What’s wrong with Travel Weekly’s inclusion of YTB in its 2008 Power List?

Maybe a better question is: What’s not wrong?

Travel Weekly bills itself as the “National Newspaper of the Travel Industry” and “the most influential B2B news resource” for the travel industry and travel professionals. Whenever it singles out a travel business, it lends it credibility and legitimacy.

As a tribute to the influence of Travel Weekly, when you go to the YTB International site, you are greeted by this statement, “YTB International, Inc. was recognized as the 26th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in Travel Weekly’s 2008 Power List…”

Clearly, the marketing department at YTB understands the importance of their company being included in the Power List by Travel Weekly.

Before that, Travel Weekly had singled YTB out. But not as a power player.

In October, 2007, it reported that RCCL ended its relationship with YTB (registration required). RCCL operates Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises and Azamara Cruises. Travel Weekly reported that RCCL concluded YTB was a “card-mill business” which sold ordinary consumers access to benefits designed for travel agents.

In November, 2007, it reported that Perillo Tours stopped taking bookings from the YTB Travel Network. Travel Weekly reported that when Perillo Tours saw Royal Caribbean stopped doing business because they considered YTB a “card-mill,” they decided to have a look at their own YTB bookings. Perillo found that “90% of the travelers and booking agents were the same person.”

Also in November, Travel Weekly noted that IATA canceled YTB for violating accreditation standards. It reported that IATA said YTB, and three other companies, engaged in “improper lending, subcontracting or hiring to a third party of an IATA numeric code by agencies.”

In May, 2008, soon after YTB triumphantly announced Bob Dickinson, former CEO of Carnival Cruise Lines would be joining their board of directors, Travel Weekly broke the news that he wouldn’t accept the position after all.

What’s especially curious to me about YTB’s inclusion on their Power List is that after analyzing YTB’s financial statements, YTB seems to be really in the travel franchise sales business, and their travel sellers really didn’t do much travel sales as “agents.”

For example, as I reported earlier this year, looking at YTB’s financials, one area which stood out was travel commissions. In 2007, only 38 percent of YTB’s members made any travel commissions, and those who did had a median income from commissions of just $39.

Considering those numbers, you have to wonder just how much travel sales did YTB really do, and are their agents actually “agents?”

Much has happened since YTB’s inclusion in the Power List earlier this year, and Travel Weekly has been there to report it.

In August, Travel Weekly reported that the State of California sued YTB, charging the company operates an illegal pyramid scheme and engages in deceptive business practices.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown said, “Today’s lawsuit seeks to shut down the company’s unlawful operation before more people are exploited by the scam.”

Travel Weekly also reported that the State of Illinois had been investigating YTB for some time and offered to work with California in their suit against YTB.

Also in August, Travel Weekly reported that YTB has had a second class-action suit filed against it. The second suit, like the first, filed earlier in August by two of its former agents, charges YTB operates an illegal pyramid scheme in violation of the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act.

It gets better.

This past week, I saw Travel Weekly’s 2009 Travel Preview Virtual Tradeshow, set to kickoff on December 17th, will feature YTB President, J. Kim Sorensen, in the discussion of “The Profession for 2009 – What Proves You Are A Travel Pro. A discussion of Credentials and Validation for Travel Agents.”

Based on the conclusions of RCCL, Perillo Tours, and others, and my own reading of YTB’s financial data, I think one has to question the inclusion of Mr. Sorensen in any discussion of the “Credentials and Validation for Travel Agents.”

Moreover, I think we all have to ask if Travel Weekly’s inclusion of YTB on its Power List and in its Travel Preview makes sense, for “the most influential B2B news resource” for the travel industry and travel professionals.

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  • http://www.singleparenttravel.net John F

    This column is excellent and echoes the sentiments of Richard Earls from Travel Research Online and Mark Murphy of TravelPulse.

    Thanks for bringing this to the public sector Ned and Tripso!

  • Jeff Linder

    Anyone who reads this publication happen to notice if YTB is advertising heavily in it?

  • Rhonda M

    Wonderful article! Thank you so much for shining the light of scrutiny on the curious relationship of Travel Weekly and YTB.

  • http://www.singleparenttravel.net John F

    The only advertising I have seen from YTB was a brief (1 month) period when they had a small Positions Offered ad int he classified.

    While Travel Weekly’s inclusion of YTB in the editorial side of things is a bit of a mystery to me, I am 100% confident that they are not in the business of trading content for ads.

  • The man who notices things

    ding ding ding ding – and Jeff Linder hits the nail on the head. . . .

    perhaps all the real travel agents of the world need to cancel their subscriptions to Travel Weekly if they continue this stupidity. . . .

  • Peter Temple

    If YTB is a nothing and doesn’t really sell any travel then why would “real travel agents” give it a second thought? If YTB “agents” are only selling travel to themselves then why would the rest of us care?

  • Joy

    Last year, when I was thinking of starting a home based business, and looked at YTB, the person who got in touch with me mentioned that one of the membership suggestions was to purchase several copies of Travel Weekly, and give them to your “target prospets” other people that I would have to signed up.
    Maybet ths is something that needs to be looked into. Seems like they have a relationship going on the down low. My radar was up, and I passed on joining.

  • Shawn Thomas

    Never had any problems with Travel Weekly have never been told to purchase any copies and I think they actually do a good job at reporting the plain and simple facts (many of which you quoted in your original article) and not just opinions as many other publications. Just because you may not like what they report or whom they invite to their tradeshows does not mean that they are being bought out. They are just being fair and I for one and happy to see it.

  • Ned Levi

    Excuse me Mr. Thomas, but I would appreciate you showing me where I either said Travel Weekly was being “bought out” by YTB, as you put it, or intimated the same. While I have questioned the inclusion of YTB in their power rankings after carefully examining their financial information, as publicly available, and question the efficacy of including any executives in the virtual trade shows, I have never stated or inferred your accusation.

    I have never questioned the integrity of Travel Weekly’s personnel in public or private, but in this case I question their judgment only. Your accusation is unfounded and uncalled for.

  • Aaron

    I would like to make several key points. YTB is not trying to compete with “Traditional Travel Agents.” YTB is competing with other online travel booking engines. The other companies spend millions to advertise thru tv, radio, etc. and YTB simply allows their representitives to advertise by word of mouth and the millions saved in advertising is used to pay the reps. YTB and their reps win and the advertising companies lose! What a great business model!

  • http://www.sonshinetraveldiscounts.com Bill

    Wow- really cool stuff – YTB did sell in 2007 over $400,000.00 in travel – that would be alot of travel for their agents to buy – hum – someone purchased it?? Good going buy more travel on line – it’s easy and convenient!!! Great business indeed!!!!

  • http://www.sylvaniatravel.com Phil

    It’s very obvious that YTB is making head way in the largest industry on the planet otherwise you guys would find some else to report on. Facts are facts – YTB is the 26th largest retailer of travel. Can you dispute that? I think not! Why shouldn’t Travel Weekly report the facts? Are you suggesting they shouldn’t???
    I can tell you first hand that YTB represents a business model in a day and age that people really need. Point . . . everyone loves to travel and almost everyone has an office already in their home. Why then would anyone not want to be able to travel for less by simply being aware of the best travel deals available on the worldwide web? At the same time it makes tremendous business sense to own and operate a home based business. Why not one centered around the largest industry on the planet that everyone loves to do and talk about!

  • Bruce Bacon

    I keep looking for YTB’s 4th quarter 2008 earnings. None reported yet.
    I have a friend big in YTB, been trying to recruit me for at least 2 years. I told him 2 years ago this MLM wouldn’t be able to sustain growth when the economy slowed.

    His business is dying, so he’s going back into Real Estate!!

    73% of revenues from sign-up fees plus a $50 monthly website. How stupid do you have to be to get into this?

  • http://www.mysavvyvacation.com Tamyra Nash

    YTB does make good business sense. I have sold 60K in travel as a YTB travel agent so far this year.I have many happy clients who do repeat business with me and I look forward to a bright and successful future as a YTB travel agent. Because of YTB, I have access to travel agent trainings, trade shows, and affiliations with major vendors. Why would any serious vendor turn down my business because my host agency happens to be YTB? I can build my business at my own pace, and with no overhead.That makes sense to me and my clients, who enjoy the same or better deals as the other online sites.Also, they have me to help them, not someone at an 800 number, where you have to sit on hold for 15 minutes before you get a human who often doesn’t speak English well!.YTB has sold a tremendous amount of travel which should not be overlooked.YTB offers an opportunity, not a guarantee of success. Like any business, it gives you what you put into it. All of the negativity about YTB sounds like sour grapes to me. There is room for all of us who strive to have success. YTB is a breath of fresh air and innovation which will keep everyone on their toes. Kim Sorenson has worked diligently to develop vendor relations abd deserves recognition and accolades. Yeah for YTB!

  • Y. Korsberg

    Yeah for YTB!!! My husband and I came across this opportunity and joined four months ago. Their business model is legitimate. Since the first month we have been receiving a monthly check for the commissions of travel sales made on my site. They train their travel agents better then other agencies out there and provide their agents with the support necessary to succeed. Believe me, I tried a couple of times working for the other networks/ agencies and they just left me drowning in incurred exnpenses. And that wasn’t even a home based business opportunity.
    Thanks to YTB, not only I am a certified CLIA counselour, but a successful travel agent, just four months into the business. God bless YTB!!!!

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