Travel Photography is not illegal!

by Ned Levi on April 19, 2010

Amtrak Auto-Train, Copyright (C) 2010, NSL Photography, All Rights Reserved

Ever since September 11, 2001, it seems war has been declared on photographers. Photographers, including me, have been harassed, interrogated and detained, just for taking photos in public.

William Beem, stopped by four security guards in succession, was prevented from taking photographs at Downtown Disney. They followed him to his car.

Drew Powell, taking a photograph of his son in front of the public library in the Rockville Town Center was stopped by a private security guard.

As discussed in my column, Hey Amtrak, travel photographers are not terrorists! an Amtrak security person threatened me with arrest if I didn’t stop taking photos of the Auto-Train. She told me, “Photographs of Amtrak trains are forbidden by federal law.” It isn’t true.

Despite the above incidents, I can assure you making photographs isn’t illegal, but some legal restrictions on your travel photography may be imposed at times.

I am not an attorney, but I do have extensive experience in travel photography as a professional photographer. Over the last few years, I’ve consulted with some lawyers about the rights of photographers.

In the US, the right to take photographs is significantly defined by the photographer’s physical location when making the image. Generally, anyone may take photographs of almost anything and anyone, when in a public place, such as streets, sidewalks and public parks, unless there is a specific legal statute. This includes photographing private property visible from a public space.

There are exceptions to that rule. Photographs of military or Department of Energy installations, secured emergency areas of police crime scenes, disasters, fires or riots may be prohibited, even when taken from public spaces.

In general, in the public areas of private properties, open to the general public, such as malls and business complexes, property owners may not limit the right to photograph there.

Otherwise, for private property, the property’s owner gets to make the rules. Whether or not we think a property’s owner has made reasonable, or worthwhile photography rules, we have to abide by them. They can prohibit photography all together, or merely ban some photography like flash photography, or tripod use. Property owners are generally obliged to enforce their rules uniformly. If some may take flash photos, for example, they probably must permit everyone to do the same.

Some may disagree but in the US, you can take photographs of virtually anything from a public space including:

• Children
• Celebrities
• Bridges and other infrastructure
• Residential, commercial, and industrial facilities, plus public utilities
• Airport, bus and train depots (though not necessarily their security areas)
• Law enforcement officers in action

Photographer’s rights, for taking photos containing people, when on public property, are limited. You can’t photograph a person who has a “reasonable expectation of privacy.” Photographing people in a bathroom, a medical facility, or a place without general public access is not permitted. You can’t sneak photographs of people from bizarre angles.

Sometimes, you may want to obtain permission to make “legal” photographs. Photography of children in a public park, while “legal,” may be thought extremely suspicious by parents and law enforcement officials. If children are part of a crowd at a public event I don’t think twice about taking the photograph, but before I’d photograph children at play in a park, I’d obtain permission.

Most of the time, it’s security personnel, directed by their employer or on their own, who will attempt to stop you from making photographs. Sometimes they cite security concerns, but photographers’ experiences indicate more often than not they either can’t or won’t give you a reason.

Taking a photograph of a building or an outdoor scene, from a public space, almost never poses a security threat. Taking a photo of a building on public view isn’t going to reveal a “trade secret,” and taking a photograph of a copyrighted architectural work is permitted under US copyright law.

It’s rare, in my experience, but law enforcement officials sometimes object to some photography, but most are reasonable and understand the rights of photographers.

If confronted by security personnel, for your photography, stay calm, collected, polite, respectful, and firm.

Tell the security personnel your name if asked. Use it as an opening to ask why they want you to cease taking photographs. I’d be concerned about showing them your ID, mostly because I’d worry about its return. When on public property, whether or not they tell you why you need to stop photographing, explain that they have no authority to do so when you’re on public property. Then ask politely if you’re free to continue.

If they continue questioning, harass or threaten you, try to confiscate your camera, film or memory card, or attempt to force you to delete photos (They aren’t entitled to do so without a court order.), I suggest you immediately ask for the person’s name, employer, and legal grounds they claim for their actions. Armed with that information, and if they refuse, ask to see a supervisor, or offer to call the police. If you say you’ll call the police, you must be prepared to actually call them, if they don’t back off.

If you’re on private property, try to find out why they’ve asked you to stop taking photos. There may be a way to mitigate the problem. When stopped at Epcot, I determined security had safety concerns with me taking photographs with my tripod in a crowded area. That was reasonable. I offered to stop using the tripod, and was allowed to continue taking photographs. Otherwise, I advise you to follow security’s directive with little argument unless you can point out others who are also taking photos, or if security’s actions are contrary to the organization’s written guidelines.

Recognize that some US states have laws specifically aimed at photography. California has an anti-paparazzi law which more broadly defines a person’s privacy than in most other states.

The laws which govern photography in other countries are often far different than in the US. In Quebec, Canada, its “Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms” defines privacy for photography much differently than in the US. In France, privacy rules, affecting photography of people in public are stringent and tough.

As part of your travel planning, learn the law for where you’ll be traveling and making photographs.

Ned Levi is a long time professional photographer with a passion for wildlife and travel photography. You can view some of Ned’s travel and other photos at NSL Photography or get more travel photography advice at the NSL Photography Blog which was recently included in Photography Colleges’Top 100 Travel Photography Blogs.”

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  • Graham

    I realise you’re talking about the USA but you don’t make that clear until the very end which is a pity; “travel photography” is a very broad term.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that when people ask you to stop it is simpler to do so, apologise, put the camera away and leave. That has always taken the wind out of the sails of the official. I might argue the toss here in the UK but when I’m abroad, and particularly somewhere I don’t speak the language, I don’t want to end up in an argument.

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Graham, I’m sorry that you didn’t find the column clear.

    Right under my statement that I’m a professional photographer, not an attorney, I start the meat of the column with the sentence which starts,

    “In the US, the right to take photographs…”

    I’m sorry you missed that.

    Yes, one could, as you suggest, “when people ask you to stop it is simpler to do so, apologise, put the camera away and leave.”

    I’ve traveled through much of the world and found that if I did that every time someone came up to me to try to stop me taking photographs that I would miss capturing many wonderful memories, keepsakes, and photographs which help others travel to wonderful destinations.

    We’ll have to agree to disagree I think. I do come armed with researched knowledge of the rules and laws of each country I visit, and while I might disagree with their validity, I have respect for each country’s right to make its rules and so I obey them.

    That being said, I have never had a problem politely questioning the imposition of a directive contrary to a country’s laws. With very very few exceptions I have been able to continue photographing. Most of the time the problem is a misunderstanding about what I’ve been photographing. In the US, our law which permits photographing people in public without permission, is almost unique, and with privacy laws much more restrictive elsewhere, security and the police usually seem to just want to be sure we’re not taking photos of ordinary citizens without their permission.

    When outside the US, if a person, adult or child is to be the subject of my photograph, I ask permission. In fact, even here in the US, I ask permission too, except for crowd shots. I find I can get much better photographs that way, and if they are really good, I have them even sign a release.

    While traveling, taking photos without permission can result in far worse consequences than having to deal with security guards and police. Many cultures are fearful of photos being taken. Believe me, you don’t want to take a photograph in such a culture of people, without permission.

    As far as taking photos of buildings and other inanimate objects and structures, it’s rare to have a problem as the rules are usually clearly defined everywhere but in the US. Moreover, most places realize the importance of photography to their continued tourist industry which they desire to grow.

    I wouldn’t suggest you argue with authorities, but I wouldn’t suggest you just walk away without at least being sure you can’t continue with your photography. I’ve had situations I’ve had to stop, when outside the US, but I’ve never had a problem when asking what the problem was, as I’ve always been polite and respectful.

  • Ed

    It all depends…..
    It depends on the intent of the photograph. If you’re in an area with sensitive systems, then yeah, I can understand the restriction…
    But there is another reason you can’t take pictures….Copyright.
    Yup, copyright!
    Most buildings designs are copyrighted. If you go to the Nation’s Capitol and set up your tripod and Nikon SLR to take pictures of the national monuments on the national Mall, you *WILL* be stopped by the park police. Not because these are sensitive subjects, but because you have not purchased a permit to take pictures!
    You see, the police assume that because you have thousands of dollars in camera equipment, and you are setting up a tripod, you must be a professional photographer and as such, will be selling the pictures you are taking for a profit. The government wants their cut!
    This is in every US park…you are *NOT* allowed to take professional, for profit, pictures without a permit. This includes travel brochures, weddings, or anything…you need a permit first!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/08/AR2006060800182.html

    Secondly, if you are in Disney, Mall of America, or in your local Walmart, you are on private property. As such, any photography that is beyond a point-and-shoot variety, will need to get special permission..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photography_and_the_law
    So, if you setup in your local mall to take some pictures of your kids playing on the in-mall playground, you will most likely be asked to leave if your equipment includes the use of a tripod…It seems that the standard identifier is a tripod…That’s why I use a monopod with a quick release camera attachment.
    http://forums.steves-digicams.com/tripods-heads/134428-monopod-quick-release.html

    Ed

  • laura townsend elion

    Ned:

    It’s important to note that these ‘rights’ to take pictures only pertain to someone taking the photo for personal, non-commerical use. You cannot take a photo of someone in which they are recognizable, even in a public place, without their consent (model release) if it is to be used for commercial purposes. “Commericial purposes’ may also include submission in any photo contest, or even posting on a website that generate ad revenue. First run photos in newspapers are generally exempt, but further reproducing the image may be a no-no. Additionally in some specific states (like CA) both oridinary individuals and celebrities have what’s called the ‘right of publicity’ meaning they have additionally rights on how their image is to be used. Its especially perilous to take and use photos of celebrities where that law exists.

    Needless to say, even if its not illegal, if you spend too much time photographing children, it may transmit the creep factor and get you a visit from a police officer.

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Hi Laura,

    In the column, my discussion is confined to taking photographs. How people use photographs opens up a different discussion, especially for travel photographers, as it brings into play the world’s countries’ conflicting copyright laws, privacy issues, property laws, and the rights of individuals to control the use of their own image.

    While for me personally, those complex issues are of great concern, as they comprise the legal mine field controlling the commercial use of photographs, each of those issues are beyond the scope of this column, and for the average traveler, are generally of little or no concern.

    You mentioned California, for example. I briefly mentioned their anti-paparazzi law, because it can even affect one’s right to take photographs of people, not just one’s use of the photograph once created.

    Your point about photographing children is correct, which is why, as stated in the column, I always suggest that when children are the subject of a photograph, one should always get permission to take the photos, which, of course, can’t come from the minor children themselves, but must come from a parent, or guardian. By the way, the permission can’t come from a caretaker, such as a teacher, sitter or au pair, unless they have been given guardian privileges in writing.

    —————
    I’m adding this additional thought.

    Laura, it’s interesting that you used the words, “commercial purposes” because the notion of “commercial photography” is generally quite specific.

    Commercial photography is generally defined as photographic work done for such purposes as, magazine or other advertising, such as on the Internet to promote a product, corporate publications, brochures, restaurant menus, etc. Basically commercial photography involves a client that wants to sell or promote something for which they need photographs taken.

    I say this, because more often than not, photography used for artistic purposes, not direct product or service promotion, such as for sale in a gallery, display in a museum, or in someone’s home who purchases it, etc. isn’t considered a commercial photography use.

    Thanks again for your thoughts, Laura. They are appreciated.

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Hi Ed,

    Thanks very much for your input. If I may, I’d like to add some additional information concerning the points you made.

    As I mentioned in the column, “taking a photograph of a copyrighted architectural work is permitted under US copyright law” when taken from a public space.

    The Copyright Law of the United States of America
    and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code Circular 92, § 120. Scope of exclusive rights in architectural works states in part,

    “(a) Pictorial Representations Permitted. — The copyright in an architectural work that has been constructed does not include the right to prevent the making, distributing, or public display of pictures, paintings, photographs, or other pictorial representations of the work, if the building in which the work is embodied is located in or ordinarily visible from a public place.”

    You are right, that if you go to the National Mall, or many of our national monuments in Washington, DC, and set up a tripod, you may need a permit. Refering to Derrill Holly’s 2006 Washington Post article which you referenced, I went to the NPS website and retrieved their “Location Fees and cost recovery for commercial filming and still photography” document. According to the document, for still photography, you only need a permit if
    a. the activity takes place at location(s) where or when members of the public are generally not allowed; or
    b. the activity uses model(s), sets(s), or prop(s) that are not a part of the location’s natural or cultural resources or administrative facilities; or
    c. the park would incur additional administrative costs to monitor the activity;
    d. The park needs to provide management and oversight to:
    1. avoid impairment or incompatible use of the resources and values of the park, or
    2. limit resource damage, or
    3. minimize health or safety risks to the visiting public.

    Moreover, they apparently consider that weddings fall under b., for whatever reason.

    Later in the document, you can see that the fees are set largely by the number of people involved. Wedding parties normally have from 3-10 people or more, (bride, groom, photographer) hence the fee of $50 or more. Apparently, for a single photographer, just taking general photos at the Mall or monuments, with only hand carried equipment, using a camera and tripod, you can get a permit, in case of being hassled, and it’s free. I’ll check that out and report back. Heck, I want to know for myself. A professional photographer friend of my was taking sunrise photographs with a tripod at the Jefferson Memorial a couple weeks ago and had no problem.

    I’ve taken many photos on the National Mall, and some of the monuments with no permit, with a tripod, and with no problem.

    At the Capitol Building, however, you do need a permit. You get that from the US Capitol Police.

    At Disney, since you must pay an entrance fee, their property is wholly considered private property, and they can control all photography there, and set their own rules, about tripods, etc., but they have to apply their rules uniformly.

    Disney does permit photography in their property, and in fact, permits limited tripod use. I was only asked to stop using my tripod because of safety concerns, so the temporary limit on my photography I felt was quite reasonable.

    Under any circumstance, the harassment Mr. Beem received there, if true, was not within the legal right of Disney employees to conduct. Moreover, they refused to state what Mr. Beem was doing that didn’t conform to Disney’s written rules.

    At a mall, the public areas are open to the public without restriction when the mall is open and is therefore considered public space by every state as far as I can find out. Therefore, malls can control photography, with regard to safety, such as saying no tripods as they would be a hazard, but they apparently can’t ban photography all together. In fact, they could probably make a case banning a monopod too.

  • laura townsend elion

    Ned,

    I mentioned ‘commercial purposes’ because often something can later be determined to be ‘commercial purposes’ even if the picture taker does not perceive that originally. There was a rather notorious case here in the Mid-atlantic states where someone posted what would be thought of as a pretty generic picture on their blog (I think it was from a party). The subject of the photo protested. The site owner refused to take it down. The subject sued because the blog ran those stupid Google ads, the court ruled the use was ‘commercial.’

  • john

    Ned,
    I’ll disagree with you on Mr. Beem. He doesn’t have a right to be on Disney property. It’s not public property. Any property owner can exclude an individual without cause. They don’t have to let him stay. In fact, if they wanted, they could have permanently banned him from the property and had him arrested if he stepped back on with or without a camera.

    Casinos use this tactic all of the time. Its how they can keep people who use perfectly legal tactics, like card counting, that hurt their take from playing.

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Addendum:

    I spoke with the National Park Service in Washington DC this afternoon, concerning photography on the National Mall and other monuments in the Washington DC area, under the auspices of the NPS.

    I was told that any professional photographer taking photos on the National Mall whether commercial or artistic needs to obtain an NPS permit which starts at $50, and is priced according to the number of people involved in taking the photographs, and location requirements.

    I was also told that ordinary visitors to the National Mall, taking photographs, with or without a tripod, for their personal use, don’t need a permit as long as the following is true:

    a. the photographer and anyone with the photographer are only in areas open to the general public, and
    b. no models, sets, or props are used which aren’t part of the area (trees, bushes, benches belonging to the area aren’t considered props), plus all equipment used must be hand carried, and
    c. the NPS will not incur any monitoring costs for the photography.

  • Natalie

    I guess it just depends on how you are approaching the situation or maybe NPS doesn’t enforce rules evenly. I was in DC last summer and took a host of tripod pictures on the national mall without a problem. Granted, it was at night, around 9pm, but I had no problems.

  • Andie

    I think Disney was within their right to remove Mr B from the property.
    Had he showed identification it would have ended there. People who are confrontational are automatically suspect. Security are there to a job and should be respected.

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Hi John,

    Thanks for your comment.

    It turns out that a business which opens itself to the general public, according to attorneys with whom I’ve spoken, don’t have the right to exclude everyone without cause.

    Such businesses are primarily places of public accommodation, it was explained to me, meaning they are in business to accommodate the needs of the public. As they actively invite and seek the patronage of the general public they are, at the least, subject to the same anti-discrimination laws that protect workers seeking employment or promotion, specifically, the Civil Rights Act of 1964. So they can’t discriminate or segregate on the grounds of race, color, religion or national origin.

    They also have to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

    Many states have added to the limitations on businesses’ right to exclude customers. California, for example, prohibits discrimination based on unconventional dress and sexual orientation.

    You mentioned casinos excluding card counters, but even that is being challenged now. In Indiana, Thomas P. Donovan, a self-described card-counter was banned from the Grand Victoria Resort and Casino. He sued over the banning and won in the lower court, but it was overturned in the appeals court. Now the case is in the Indiana Supreme Court. If he wins, you know it will spread to every other state with gambling, and could have even more far reaching implications for all businesses.

    Regardless, the right to exclude business patrons from business property is far from absolute, and the right of businesses accommodating the general public is seemingly narrowing all the time.

    When it comes down to it, businesses actually have to have a reason to exclude someone from their business property, and apparently having posted rules regulations for the public narrows the rights of businesses even more, according to many attorneys.

    Businesses are on solid ground for excluding people based on: poor behavior, safety issues, closing times, non payment, or a paying customer insisting a non-paying customer is with them, poor hygiene or inappropriate dress, people in violation of a health, safety, building or business code mandated on the business by law, contagious health issues.

    When it comes down to it, today, businesses accommodating the general public, really need a legitimate reason to exclude someone from their business in the opinion of many attorneys.

    Are there absolutes in this? There aren’t many absolutes in law I’ve found.

    Just my opinion.

    Thanks for your readership.

  • Kevin M

    Ned,

    To correct a point you made: No, businesses do not “actually have to have a reason to exclude someone from their business property.” First, this is a matter that varies, state by state, so it’s impossible to state a broad nationwide rule that applies everywhere.

    It’s true that federal antidiscrimination statutes prohibit banning people who share one or more of certain protected characteristics – race, sex, national origin, religion, etc. However, if person A files a complaint alleging such discrimination, it’s up to person A to make a convincing case that such discrimination has occurred. It’s not up to the alleged discriminator to “prove” that he didn’t discriminate (which is, in fact, impossible to do) by providing a different reason.

    In fact, a business can, generally speaking, allow person A to do something and not allow person B to do something, simply because it wants to – as long as the reason is not one prohibited by law (again, race, religion, national origin, etc.). In a travel context, travel companies frequently make exceptions to their rules – allowing late cancellations without penalty, for instance – to some people and not others, based solely on their discretion.

    Your comment that “in the opinion of many attorneys” businesses need a legitimate reason to exclude someone stems from those attorneys, or their brethren, filing suit after suit after suit alleging some vague form of discrimination that would be hard to prove but also somewhat costly to defend against. Of course it’s always cheaper in the short run to just give in. It’s true, as the attorneys said, that posting rules and regulations narrows the business owner’s rights, because the assumption then becomes, if it’s not banned, it must be permitted. Smart businesses know better.

  • Kevin Ms

    On a different note, I’m surprised nobody else picked up on Graham’s comment that “I’ve come to the conclusion that when people ask you to stop it is simpler to do so, apologise, put the camera away and leave.”

    That’s precisely how people lose their civil rights to the government. Of course it’s simpler; you’re caving in to some power-hungry pinhead with a badge who “thinks” photography is dangerous because – I don’t know, maybe your simple point-and-shoot or DSLR is actually an X-ray camera with a quarter-mile reach that can detect top-secret activity going on inside a building.

    Capitulating to illegal authority is never, ever a good idea, unless your life or health are in danger.

  • http://www.philtarley.com Phil Tarley

    The port of Ft Lauderdale is very photogenic, giant ships surrounded by a tropical state park the contrast of technology and primitive landscape. I drove into the Port of Ft. Lauderdale with my camera on my lap and was immeadiately told for security purposes, I could not photograph
    the port and that if I was not boarding or picking up passengers I had to leave, which I did. an I go back and shoot there.

  • Ed

    There is certainly a lot of very good information in this posting. I would suggest that anyone traveling on vacation to a national park print this posting out and carry it with them so that when they do indeed get hassled by *THE MAN* they can whip out this posting and point out where that overzealous park policeman is wrong! (just don’t end your point with a taunting “in your face” comment…that may not be good!)

    Ed

  • James

    I have to give a hearty 2nd to Kevin Ms! I don’t like captiulating, but I also don’t want to lose my equipment or liberty to an argument that can be circumvented by a departure/reappearance if necessary.

    Related to that, and the cultural note, I once very hastily packed my camera, retreated to my car and fled. I don’ tknow if was a culturaly taboo or not, but I was photographing hill with changing leaves, with a cemetary at the foot of the hill. I do not make this up: it was in Transylvania (Romania). On Halloween. And two shovel-weilding locals sealed the deal. The shot would have been beautiful had I had time to take a few more and get the light balance right, but the only shot I have is a bit washed out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jane-Austen/100000191219220 Jane Austen

    I like your advice to always remain polite even when you know you are in the right. I love getting used camera equipment for sale and taking pictures of people going about their lives. I try to make it as natural as possible, though, and respect others.

  • Jake

    Jane, I love how you not-so-subtlely put a link in your post. Very sneaky. So much so that I will never shop there now. Backfire.

  • Jake

    Jane, I love how you not-so-subtlely put a link in your post. Very sneaky. So much so that I will never shop there now. Backfire.

  • Estrella

    It may not be illegal, but I personally find it very rude when I’m in a public place and someone comes right up to me and takes a picture without asking. That happened once and I charged the guy, yelling for him to delete it. We didn’t make contact and I didn’t hurt his camera and he didn’t do anything about it. It still bugs me that he did that. There should be a law where if you need to be within a certain distance of a person to take a desired shot and said person is someone you don’t know that you need to ask them if it’s okay to take the shot before you take it.

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