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	<title>Comments on: McCain and Obama on air traffic control</title>
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		<title>By: Anita Dunham-Potter</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7825</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita Dunham-Potter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,
Charlie is pointing out one of many issues as it relates to each candidate.  It&#039;s worth noting that Hillary Clinton has the same position on ATC as John McCain.  
Democrat or Republican -- this is one topic where if you travel you should pay attention to the candidates position.

Anita DUNHAM-Potter
(Barack Obama&#039;s 6th cousin once removed) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,<br />
Charlie is pointing out one of many issues as it relates to each candidate.  It&#8217;s worth noting that Hillary Clinton has the same position on ATC as John McCain.<br />
Democrat or Republican &#8212; this is one topic where if you travel you should pay attention to the candidates position.</p>
<p>Anita DUNHAM-Potter<br />
(Barack Obama&#8217;s 6th cousin once removed) :)</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7804</link>
		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am mortified to see a clearly political message being posted here on Tripso.  Not only is it blatantly political - we have no way of knowing if these really are the ONLY things said by each candidate on this issue.  For all we know, these were cherry-picked to make McCain&#039;s position seem more detailed and robust.  This is an obvious ploy to sway voters.

As a frequent traveler, I am just as concerned about the issues facing the travel industry as anyone else in here.  However, I also recognize that in the overall scheme of what&#039;s important to our nation, that takes a backseat - a WAAAY backseat - to far more important issues that affect many more people&#039;s lives.

I also believe that Radar21 hit on something extremely important here:  

&quot;...his understanding of the current ATC situation would be from briefings of others, as would Barack Obama knowledge of current ATC/FAA issues.
Yes, McCain would have the phraseology to sound like he knows what is going on but that can be misleading.&quot;

In other words, neither candidate can claim any directly-obtained, in depth knowledge of the issues facing the travel industry, as neither have ever worked in it.  While McCain flew jets, it was as a military pilot - he was never part of commercial aviation.  Any information, knowledge, or understanding that either candidate has, came from their advisers...and will continue to come from there once one of them is in office.  McCain&#039;s experience flying planes means nothing in terms of understanding, or having the answers to, the issues currently facing the US&#039;s travel infrastructure or industry.

Anyone who would base their vote on a candidate&#039;s position on transportation is foolishly ignoring the many fundamental issues that are FAR more critical to our nation today than this.

If Tripso is going to become just another place for people to push their candidate of choice, then it will be of no value or interest to me.  I come here for information about travel, not for political opinions and thinly-veiled campaigning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am mortified to see a clearly political message being posted here on Tripso.  Not only is it blatantly political &#8211; we have no way of knowing if these really are the ONLY things said by each candidate on this issue.  For all we know, these were cherry-picked to make McCain&#8217;s position seem more detailed and robust.  This is an obvious ploy to sway voters.</p>
<p>As a frequent traveler, I am just as concerned about the issues facing the travel industry as anyone else in here.  However, I also recognize that in the overall scheme of what&#8217;s important to our nation, that takes a backseat &#8211; a WAAAY backseat &#8211; to far more important issues that affect many more people&#8217;s lives.</p>
<p>I also believe that Radar21 hit on something extremely important here:  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;his understanding of the current ATC situation would be from briefings of others, as would Barack Obama knowledge of current ATC/FAA issues.<br />
Yes, McCain would have the phraseology to sound like he knows what is going on but that can be misleading.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words, neither candidate can claim any directly-obtained, in depth knowledge of the issues facing the travel industry, as neither have ever worked in it.  While McCain flew jets, it was as a military pilot &#8211; he was never part of commercial aviation.  Any information, knowledge, or understanding that either candidate has, came from their advisers&#8230;and will continue to come from there once one of them is in office.  McCain&#8217;s experience flying planes means nothing in terms of understanding, or having the answers to, the issues currently facing the US&#8217;s travel infrastructure or industry.</p>
<p>Anyone who would base their vote on a candidate&#8217;s position on transportation is foolishly ignoring the many fundamental issues that are FAR more critical to our nation today than this.</p>
<p>If Tripso is going to become just another place for people to push their candidate of choice, then it will be of no value or interest to me.  I come here for information about travel, not for political opinions and thinly-veiled campaigning.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Fawcett</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7794</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Fawcett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the venue where to be political?  Why not? Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion and to agree or disagree.  At least. people are allowed to  express their feelings via posting.  And they have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the venue where to be political?  Why not? Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion and to agree or disagree.  At least. people are allowed to  express their feelings via posting.  And they have.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7792</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the editors at Tripso even read their columnist’s submissions, or just allow them to run rampant on any topic they see fit?

I don&#039;t think it matters, since it looks like Charlie is the publisher of Tripso. Apparently Ms. Cruise Specialist Anita shares his same political views. 

Just stop, you guys are losing your credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the editors at Tripso even read their columnist’s submissions, or just allow them to run rampant on any topic they see fit?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it matters, since it looks like Charlie is the publisher of Tripso. Apparently Ms. Cruise Specialist Anita shares his same political views. </p>
<p>Just stop, you guys are losing your credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Kweed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kweed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Mr. Leocha devotes his column to his own political views. This is the same man who a few weeks ago, wrote a completely redundant piece calling Palin &#039;the answer to FAA modernization&#039; because she is a pilot. (Even though it is actually her husband who can fly a plane) 

Do the editors at Tripso even read their columnist&#039;s submissions, or just allow them to run rampant on any topic they see fit? I for one would like to get back to the travel articles, if Mr. Leocha can come off his soap box long enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Mr. Leocha devotes his column to his own political views. This is the same man who a few weeks ago, wrote a completely redundant piece calling Palin &#8216;the answer to FAA modernization&#8217; because she is a pilot. (Even though it is actually her husband who can fly a plane) </p>
<p>Do the editors at Tripso even read their columnist&#8217;s submissions, or just allow them to run rampant on any topic they see fit? I for one would like to get back to the travel articles, if Mr. Leocha can come off his soap box long enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7780</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, but didn&#039;t the The National Air Traffic Controllers Association endorse Obama for president?

By the way, can we please keep politics out of Tripso?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, but didn&#8217;t the The National Air Traffic Controllers Association endorse Obama for president?</p>
<p>By the way, can we please keep politics out of Tripso?</p>
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		<title>By: Radar21</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radar21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John McCain more than likely, has not flown as Pilot in command in many years and his understanding  of the current ATC situation would be from briefings of others, as would Barack Obama knowledge of current ATC/FAA issues.
Yes, McCain would have the phraseology to sound like he knows what is going on but that can vbe misleading.
Remember it was Ronald Reagan who said almost the exact same thing in 1981 (  If I am elected, one of my top transportation priorities will be to modernize the air traffic control system ) to get the Union vote and then turned his back on and fired the controllers.
Same old Politics!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John McCain more than likely, has not flown as Pilot in command in many years and his understanding  of the current ATC situation would be from briefings of others, as would Barack Obama knowledge of current ATC/FAA issues.<br />
Yes, McCain would have the phraseology to sound like he knows what is going on but that can vbe misleading.<br />
Remember it was Ronald Reagan who said almost the exact same thing in 1981 (  If I am elected, one of my top transportation priorities will be to modernize the air traffic control system ) to get the Union vote and then turned his back on and fired the controllers.<br />
Same old Politics!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Hough</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7778</link>
		<dc:creator>Janice Hough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, since we&#039;re getting political here, yes... John McCain does know how to fly a plane.  And while he didn&#039;t crash five of them as rumored, this is from factcheck.org

&quot;McCain did lose two Navy aircraft while piloting them. One crash was found to be be McCain&#039;s fault, the other due to an engine failure of undetermined cause.. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain&#039;s or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain. A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi. 

A fifth alleged &quot;crash&quot; turns out to be a misinterpretation of a flight accident that did not result in the loss of the aircraft. McCain admitted to causing that incident through &quot;daredevil clowning&quot; but returned safely.&quot;

Can we also remember that it was Reagan&#039;s recklessness in firing all the air traffic controllers that got us into a big air traffic mess in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, since we&#8217;re getting political here, yes&#8230; John McCain does know how to fly a plane.  And while he didn&#8217;t crash five of them as rumored, this is from factcheck.org</p>
<p>&#8220;McCain did lose two Navy aircraft while piloting them. One crash was found to be be McCain&#8217;s fault, the other due to an engine failure of undetermined cause.. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain&#8217;s or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain. A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi. </p>
<p>A fifth alleged &#8220;crash&#8221; turns out to be a misinterpretation of a flight accident that did not result in the loss of the aircraft. McCain admitted to causing that incident through &#8220;daredevil clowning&#8221; but returned safely.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can we also remember that it was Reagan&#8217;s recklessness in firing all the air traffic controllers that got us into a big air traffic mess in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: BunnyFaber</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7777</link>
		<dc:creator>BunnyFaber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The modernization project is underway already, &quot;ADS-B.&quot;  I guess it&#039;s completion and future funding may be in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modernization project is underway already, &#8220;ADS-B.&#8221;  I guess it&#8217;s completion and future funding may be in question.</p>
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		<title>By: jlawrence01</title>
		<link>http://www.consumertraveler.com/columns/mccain-and-obama-on-air-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7776</link>
		<dc:creator>jlawrence01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posting the positions of both candidates is not campaigning.  Charlie Leocha goes out of his way to present the positions of both candidates.  He can&#039;t help that one is well thought out and the other deliberately vague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posting the positions of both candidates is not campaigning.  Charlie Leocha goes out of his way to present the positions of both candidates.  He can&#8217;t help that one is well thought out and the other deliberately vague.</p>
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