Four hours to nowhere, a half hour to freedom

by Ned Levi on March 15, 2010

Penn Station New York by Joe Shlabotnik, http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeshlabotnik/

Saturday morning, my wife, a friend and I traveled on Amtrak through the nor’easter storm from Philadelphia to New York City. We left late, but arrived at Penn Station almost on-time. We had a great lunch at O’Neals’, then saw Dmitri Shostakovich’s delightful “The Nose,” at the Metropolitan Opera. Then it was back to New York’s Penn Station.

That’s when our great day ended!

Little did we know that 5 hours later, we would be stopped dead on the rails, having traveled only 10 miles, preparing to reverse engines to return to New York’s Penn Station, where we started.

Making the five wasted hours worse, about 100 of us were forced to stand for 4½ hours as there weren’t enough seats for us on the train.

When we arrived at Penn Station, New York, after the opera, we were told our train was delayed 20 minutes, but not why. We did hear two northbound trains were delayed by signal problems.

When we boarded, every seat was already taken, plus loads of passengers were standing in every car. We learned after boarding, Amtrak canceled Northeast Regional #161, and put its passengers on our train, #163. No extra cars were added to accommodate the additional passengers.

The conductor announced we were waiting for permission to proceed due to signal problems. A half hour later, our heavily overloaded train finally headed to Newark, our first stop, 17 minutes away.

We never got there!

After boarding the train I called Amtrak about obtaining a refund since my “reserved seat” didn’t exist. The agent asked if I still had my ticket, and that it was all I needed to get a refund. Once we left the station, the trainman began collecting tickets. In a polite, but firm tone, I initially refused to give him my ticket. I tried to explain what Amtrak’s agent told me, but he only got testy. I asked for a letter or note to prove I had no seat. He said, “No.” He said if I didn’t stop complaining about not having a seat, and didn’t turn over my ticket immediately, (I did get to keep my stub.) he would have me arrested, and taken off the train in Newark.

Jeremy and Rachel Feinstein, traveling to Philadelphia, also had no seats. When Ms. Feinstein and others complained about the lack of seating, and wanted to know how to get a refund, the same trainman told them if they didn’t like being on the train he could call the police, and put them off at Newark. He was repeatedly surly, and rude. While he was opprobrious, other Amtrak employees were sympathetic.

Just a few miles inside New Jersey we stopped. For the next 2 hours, we sputtered toward Newark, hearing repeated announcements about signal problems and needing permission to proceed.

Then, over the next 1½ hours the conductor announced, more than a dozen times, we were only 4 minutes from Newark.

I met some wonderful passengers; a businessman on his way to Baltimore, and many college students returning to school. A very nice young man, headed for Newark, gave up his seat for my wife.

Four hours after leaving New York, Amtrak conceded defeat to the storm. We backed up to New York. All Amtrak passenger service between New York and Trenton, NJ was suspended. Unconscionably to me, passengers headed for Newark would not be let off there, even though we could see the station.

During the return to New York, everyone scrambled to figure out how to get to their destinations. Fortunately, I was able to call Hertz on my smartphone. Reservations found a Manhattan location still open, and reserved a car for me. Minutes later, I received an email from Hertz confirming the reservation.

Others weren’t so lucky. Some of the college students had little money and would have to wait until Amtrak could restore service, to get another train. Some would be forced to stay the night in Penn Station, New York.

It took a half hour to return to Penn Station. When the train doors opened we all rushed out on to the platform. It was a relief to be free from the train. We soon picked up our car from Hertz, and managed to reach home before midnight.

While Amtrak could neither have prevented their signal failures, nor the down power lines, which paralyzed their trains, they made serious and inexcusable mistakes in dealing with their passengers.

Amtrak needs to be honest with its passengers. They knew about 100 passengers would have no seat, causing some to stand for hours. They should have, at the least, given passengers the option to take another train or refund the fare, or add cars to the train, to have enough seats for everyone.

Amtrak needs to use better judgment about its ability to quickly repair significant widespread systems  and power problems. They knew they were having serious signal problems, from New York to Trenton, (60 miles) even while they continued to send out train after train. Nine trains were stranded like ours. They should have suspended service much earlier, until they could ensure their trains could get through.

• Amtrak needs to communicate better with their passengers. Passengers were rightly frustrated and angry as Amtrak withheld important information about their problems and the trains’ true status.

Amtrak needs to better train its employees to handle emergencies, and handle their stress. There is no excuse for a trainman to be rude, or surly, or treat passengers with contempt, or threaten them with arrest for being upset when Amtrak doesn’t fulfill their own obligations.

I am a strong supporter of long distance rail travel in the US, and have complemented Amtrak many times including a column about the Auto-Train, and in Thanks Amtrak, for fast thinking and quick action, yet I must call on Amtrak to make major improvements in their communication and treatment of passengers, and their training of employees in passenger relations.

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  • Deb Kless

    We avoid train travel. We also live in Phila and travel to NYC. We use megabus or boltbus. We stopped using Amtrak when we had to stand wearing backpacks on the train trip from Phila to Baltimore to take Icelandair to Iceland.That was several years ago. We are in our 60′s.We prefer train travel. But in Europe, not in the USA

  • http://www.tripso.com/author/ned/ Ned Levi

    Hi Deb,

    I like BoltBus, and though I’ve never used MegaBus, I understand it’s just as good as BoltBus.

    I happen to prefer the train. It’s generally faster, and I find it more comfortable. On BoltBus, I do like the wifi, which Amtrak has only in their Acela trains, though it’s coming to all their trains, probably by the end of next year.

    This past weekend’s episode isn’t the first time we’ve had awful delays with Amtrak, but it’s the first time they couldn’t get me to my destination. They have a pretty good record of getting me to my destination on time, however. I take the train out of Philadelphia to Boston, NYC, and south to Washington and beyond, several times per month, on average, throughout the year.

    At the insistence of my younger son I started using BoltBus periodically. Their “depot” in Center-City is a quick walk away for me. Their buses are clean, and as comfortable as any buses I’ve ever been on. That being said, I’ve been stuck at the tunnel to NYC on BoltBus and arrived as much as an hour late in NYC, and due to accidents twice coming home, 2 hours late. (Of course, with this last episode with Amtrak I was about 5.5 hours late, and had to rent a car to make it that fast.)

    My feeling is, either way, train or bus, you can have significant problems, or it can go very smoothly.

    One thing we both agree about is the trains in Europe are far superior to Amtrak, and any trains in the US for that matter, although Acela, which I take during the week for business, is darn close to European standards.

    Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and for your readership.

  • Graham

    While I agree with some of what you say, there are some elements that I take issue with. For instance, Amtrak rolling stock is stretched to the maximum. They don’t have lots of spares lying around to be added to the train. If you want that changed tell Congress.

    Then there’s the question of repairs. If Amtrak had simply shut down when they started having problems I suggest you might have been complaining about the way they “gave up too easily”. It’s a fine tightrope to walk and I don’t believe there is a right answer.

  • jlawrence01

    I quit considering Amtrak as an option when I could not get even the most basic information out of their staff. For example, noone in the Chicago station or on the 800 number could answer exactly where the terminal in Cincinnati was located at so that I could arrange connecting transportation.

    While they cannot be helpful in offering basic information, they can and do have time to harass MegaBus customers waiting in the vacinity of the Chicago Union Station area.

  • Hapgood

    At least you have the option of trains and buses in the Northeast. I live in Los Angeles, where Amtrak’s trains and schedules are so limited and inconvenient that they’re effectively useless for most people here. (A possible exception is the Pacific Surfliner to Santa Barbara or San Diego, which runs frequently enough to actually be useful for the commuters it’s intended to serve. But getting to Union Station from many parts of the Southland sprawl may take nearly as long as driving directly to those destinations.)

    Megabus briefly tried a Los Angeles to San Francisco route, but quickly abandoned it for lack of passengers. Greyhound does have extensive service, but their depot is in the most decrepit part of Downtown’s Skid Row.

    So if you don’t want to fly, driving is the only option.

  • Em Hoop

    I wonder how far down to Banana Republic status this country has to slide before someone with determination and power decides enough is enough. GM is responsible for turning the country to a car culture, effectively destroying passenger train service. Now GM is in the toilet. Leaving travel to the market economy is disastrous and needs a good re-think. Is it not time for the government to take on the challenge of infrastructure rebuilding instead of piddling around on the sidelines waiting for another corporation to take the lead and reverse our downward slide?

  • MidMom8949

    I love Amtrak. I take it frequently from Baltimore to NY, and usually I take the regional trains. (Saving 20-30 minutes to take the Acela is not worth $130 to me.) That said, yesterday my train for NY was 53 minutes late out of DC and I had to be in NY on time, so I had to spend the extra money for the Acela. It was packed, and looked oversold. I had to sit at one of those work tables facing backwards. Oh well. Things happen.

    On the way back, my train boarded 50 minutes late and then stopped a short ways out of the station. A new engine car had to be added. Frequent announcements were made. People on the train were just plain rude to the conductor where I was sitting. I even thought “Gee. I hope he doesn’t have to listen to this in every car.” The man in front of me was yelling “What about customer service?” What is it he wanted to have done?

    To top it off, the guy talked on his cell phone after we were under way until I pointed out that we were in the quiet car. Then he shouted an obscenity, but hung up.

    Like anything else, Amtrak has good and bad operating days, and good and bad employees. But don’t forget the good and bad customers.

    My kids take Megabus and Bolt too. They love them, but it’s hard enough for me to get to Baltimore, much less White Marsh (Megabus). Amtrak is cost effective for me, and almost always on time. And no security screening.

  • Heather

    We took the auto train for the first time, on 6 March 2010. It was the first time in DECADES, I had been on a long-distance train trip. I can’t describe the joy (read:tears in my eyes) as I stepped in the car. Traveling with a 5 year old and husband, it was both their first train trip. Memories for everyone!

    The staff was extremely friendly, courteous, helpful. They acted like they actually liked their job.

    The food was great, beds very comfortable. I would recommend using the larger shower (servicing the “roomette” customers) on the first level vice the shower that comes with the bedrooms. It’s very small. I used the shower just to see what it was like.

    It cost us a little over $700 for 2 adults, a child (1/2 price), and
    Ford Escort ONE WAY for a bedroom Obviously more exp than a plane ticket…but what we got was great customer service, no nickel and time charges, all the luggage we could pack in our car for “free”, free use of a stroller in disney since we were able to pack ours, no
    nickel and dime charges of a rental car as we wanted to get off property at times. These things were priceless as were the memories re-lived and created.

    Another bonus, …one way fares are HALF of a round trip…you
    won’t get THAT with a plane ticket!

    BTW, we drove back to MD (we were on a budget), but NEXT time,
    we are definitely taking the auto train back!

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